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Old 09-10-2007, 04:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
Chado2423
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Originally Posted by Mark Lapierre View Post
My understanding of "real" happiness is a kind of joy that, while possibly inspired by a momentary event, is a pervasive, lasting feeling that does not rely on any particular event for its existence. So an passing event may heighten the feeling, or such an event may first allow us to notice the feeling, but the feeling is not necessarily tied to the event.

It seems that agrees with the achievable experience of the ideal that you Chado, and everyone else are referring to. No?
Now I see you understand this concept a little... the moments of what I'd rather term Ultimate happiness, than "real", are not inspired by any event or any external criteria however... instead it is a state of mind where happiness occurs inspite of the event... Both types are real in their own way. This is akin to being cheerful in a depressing situation... it also supercedes materialism, because the bliss is more internal... The type of happiness that is dependent upon circumstand or material gain is completely artificial by comparison. Not that it isn't real in a sense, but it is of a lesser degree. The wisdom that comes out of being happy in any situation anywhere is a much more powerful motive. This is the type of happiness that goes beyond materialism. It is the same happiness that goes beyond circumstance. Circumstance that brings happiness is less spiritual and comes not from one's source of power (unless they create that circumstance). There are many different types of happiness... This Supreme happiness is only glimpsed, and brough forth, but it is only attainable in the sense that it is brought out from within. In other words it is pre-existing.
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