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Old 09-03-2007, 07:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Shamou View Post
You are correct in stating that... I give "practical" advise...

Those practical advices are the ones being used by the movers and shakers of this world... the Donald Trump, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Tony Robbins, professional athletes and captains of industries... et all...

Not a bad crowd to emulate and learn from...
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Yup. To be honest Shamou, when I first started reading your posts on this forum you irritated the **** out of me. Why? Because you have such a conservative personal development point of view based only on "facts" and non-LoA type thinking.

I used to think that way up until 2003, and I did have some success in life up to that point because I was a fanatic for personal development, productivity, efficiency etc. I owned and was running a multi-million dollar/year in sales technology company at the time. Then my life changed in 2003 when I discovered a book called "The Science of Getting Rich", which is the book "The Secret" is based on. That book totally changed my life. I actually sold my company that same year. I started "experimenting" with Law of Attraction and all this "spiritual stuff" trying to see if I could find a way to prove to myself that it worked.

I'm a very logical person, very analytical, and consider myself very intelligent. That is why I needed to see "proof" before I would believe in this "hocus pocus" stuff. The next 3-6 months of my life after finding that book were very transformational to me and lets just says I "proved it to myself."

Since then I've been using LoA to attract wealth, instead of Personal Development Tactics, but I still very much read a tonne of PD material.

Here's the kicker that really made me open my eyes. All this time I was thinking that Tony Robbins was all about "non spiritual" stuff, as in he didn't use stuff like Law of Attraction in his work, that it was all "down to earth practical stuff". That's why I kind of stayed away from it for a while, instead focusing more on "spritiual" authors like Deepak Chopra, Wayne Dyer, Eckhart Tolle, etc.

HOWEVER, once I really got the grasp of LoA and how it works over the next 4 years of my life or so, I recently went back to the original authors like Tony Robbins. To my amazement, all of his stuff IS all about LoA! You just need to "hear" what he's saying. I then attracted an interview with Tony Robbins from the creators of "Enlightenment Magazine" who further drove that point home. They asked Tony a bunch of questions and he totally admitted that he teaches all this stuff, except that early in his career he realized that the "common man" doesn't want to hear stuff that's "spiritual" because everyone equates spirituality with religion and for him to connect with millions of people on earth from all walks of life, from all religions he KNEW that he had to change the vocabulary to "de-spiritualize" it to the point where people would not be biased against it.

So, he talks about in the interview about how he changed words like "ego" to words like "fear" in his work, etc.

Anyway, what my point in all this is that I used to think exactly like you, and then my life changed. What bugged me about your points of view is that they are based on my "old way of thinking". But then I realized that it is awesome to have someone like you around because you're successful in your own life, much as I am, but you're following that "other path" that I used to be on. So now I can see a contrast between my old thinking and my new thinking.

It's cool to see the contrast between our views because I know you're totally convinced that your thinking is totally logical and everyone who's successful out there (like T.Robbins, Donald Trump, etc.) agrees with you, and I'm totally convinced that MY thinking is totally logical and everyone out there (Tony Robbins, Oprah, etc.) agrees with me!

It's so funny that when you see Tony's work, you see "practical non-loa stuff" and I see "loa stuff".

Anyways, it's really good to have you here for the contrasting opinion.
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