Originally Posted by HumbleDee
Oberlee, if we are discussing murder, itís not just the taking of life; itís the taking of "another human" life. So the question is not when life begins, but when another human is created. Science can offer DNA evidence. Through DNA science can tell whom the sperms and egg belong to. Science can tell the father of an unborn child through DNA. At the moment of conception a new human is formed, that share his/her DNA from the mother and the father. Thatís how science is able to tell a child real parent if ever in doubt.
Sperms and Eggs are potential human being; at conception is human being full with potential.
I was taking a reductio ad absurdum technique just to show that what separates people in their beliefs here is WHEN the person is, in fact, a person. Everybody believes murder is wrong. Some people don't believe abortion is murder, other people do. The difference is WHEN we have human life. You say conception--ok, that's legit. And you say sperm and eggs are potential. I'm just saying I still think of a conceived egg as potential human life. Also, because this stems from Erin's article, is that when the soul or spirit is connected to that cell? How can we know?
A zygote still has a very low survival rate, as does an embryo in the first trimester. I therefore, personally do not consider such a new life as important to preserve as a born human, and I would include second and third trimester in there too because, well, you've had time to think about it.
But, my point was just that many thinks happen in the forming of a child, and I'm not of the belief that a conceived egg = human life. It's still potential, the way I see it. There is still the forming of the heart, the brain...etc. etc.