View Single Post
Old 08-31-2007, 10:23 PM   #29 (permalink)
Mark Lapierre
Family Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,061
Mark Lapierre is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by absvan View Post
Your mind understands things with form. To know the formless you have to rise above your mind. As far as I know, rising above your mind is a good thing and there are no bad effects to it. It will only empower you and so its worth taking the chance.
As far as I can see it 'rising above your mind' involves achieving greater awareness through meditation and focused introspection. I completely agree that that is empowering.

However, if it also means believing that there is no fundamental substance to reality, or that the substance is any of thoughtforms, consciousness, experience, etc., then I don't see how that helps since we have to interact with forms.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maguru View Post
Hi Mark, I'm not sure what you mean by the flip side of going deeper. I haven't experience of this. What does it mean?
By 'flip side' I mean the negative side. The possible issues with such introspection.

If you read and discuss issues from only one perspective (which in this case is thoughtforms, pure awareness, universal consciousness, subjective reality... all very similar if not identical perspectives) then you run the risk of restricting what you perceive and what you think about to only that perspective.

It's like digging deeper, straight down. You might stumble across one or two caverns full of emerald and think that there is so much vibrant green beauty in the world. Yet you don't realise that a few hundred metres to either side of the caverns you found are other caverns full of rubies or sapphires. By constantly going deeper in one direction you miss out on breadth of wonder reality has to offer.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Livgivare View Post
Time is relative and a fourth dimention (just like Albert Einstein told the world). Because when you do something really fun the time goes fast and when something is really booring time is slow. The illution of time is that it will be the same for everyone at the same time at the same place.
Just thought I'd point out that Einstein's theory of relativity is not about how time seems to vary when we're distracted or focused. It's about how the passage of time actually varies as measured by separate observers when one approaches relativistic speeds (i.e., the speed of light).

Very different concepts. In the case of the horror movie, 90 minutes went past as measured by the clock but the two people simply thought it was more or less. However in the case of relativistic differences, if you put one clock on a space ship, sent it somewhere distant on a return journey at near-light speed, when it came back the time that passed on the clock on the ship would be less than the time that passed on the clock here on Earth.
Mark Lapierre is offline   Reply With Quote