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Originally Posted by Matthew Shea  Regardless of the book's merits, the tone of your messages could use a lot of work. |
I state the facts and use analogies as clearly and concisely as possible. That's true for all of my posts, not just the ones about being vegan.
If you don't like the reality of things you can deny away, but I don't see you disputing any facts here. Instead you're worried about the analogy of someone kicking a puppy?
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Originally Posted by Matthew Shea You'll never win people over to your position by telling them they might as well be kicking puppies for supporting the meat industry. |
You're right though, a kick is nothing. You'd have to take the puppy, cut off its ears and its nose, lock it in a cage in its own feces, pump it with growth hormones until its legs broke from the weight, inject it with antibiotics for a few years to keep it from dying from its own open wounds and sores to even come close to what we do to food animals.
But that would just be one puppy, not
45 billion a year.
Not to mention all the humans who need grain and antibiotics to, you know, live.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Shea You also don't win people over by coming across as an extremist. |
You're mistaking an extreme situation with me being an extremist.
Declining to use animal products under current conditions is a no brainer, not being an extremist.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Shea Again, there's a difference between telling the truth and being nasty about it. |
You're mistaking an unpleasant reality with me being unpleasant.
Torturing 45 billion puppies = wrong.
Torturing 45 billion food animals = wrong.
Feeding grain to food animals instead of starving kids = priceless.
Wait, I mean wrong. Yep, still wrong.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Shea This here is good stuff, especially if it's substantiated by a reliable source. |
Yep, its such a hoot. Those crazy kids..
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Originally Posted by Matthew Shea I'm not trying to pick a fight, by the way. |
Me either. I'm just so over the top tired of people acting like its so hard to do the right things, even when the facts are so blatant.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Shea I respect your position, really I do. |
No offense, but don't bother. If you're going to respect something respect reality. Respect the gravity of our situation as a world community, not whatever you perceive my position as being.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Shea but you're not coming across as the good guy. |
Who is the good guy in this situation?
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Originally Posted by Matthew Shea but it needs to be made for the right (read: love-based) reasons, not out of fear and guilt. |
Reducing suffering isn't loving? Feeding the hungry isn't? My hat's off to you my friend..