Originally Posted by Bliss Sage
And isn't it interesting how once you speak out about something against the dominating voices, all of a sudden people who agree with you start coming out of the woodwork and contacting you to voice their support and tell you that they shared your experience?
@St33med: There are apparently many people who agree with me. Maybe they are the silent majority and maybe the people who were helped are relatively few, and were most likely people who somehow got into the good graces of the dominating voices.
Angela and almost everything she said to me under the pretense of help had a destructive effect on me and my progress, and I'm saying this in public. How many left this forum before even getting started because of feeling attacked and how many have remained silent and muffled their activity to avoid going against the grain? We'll never know.
For the record, I don't know anything about the reasons for or the formation of the new forum, so I don't claim anything about that. But I have read the rules there and they seem very exclusive and controlling. However, I thought I read somewhere on here that that forum was made because the dominant voices on this forum were displeased with this one, and particularly with the recent crack-down on moderating. It's like the clique dominating this forum just took their clique into their own little exclusive forum and invited the people they wanted to it. And there may be nothing wrong with that, but it certainly proves beyond any doubt that there was a clique here that was somehow excluding the majority of the forum members from their graces.
And I do think Steve must have become more compassionate (nevermind considerate), because I remember how I felt when I arrived at this forum back in 2006-07 and he was a lot different then. But the perspective you have on his change depends entirely on where you've been standing all this time. Meanwhile, the dominating voice on this site has remained exactly the same throughout all these years, and now has formed its own forum so that it may enjoy its own company exclusively and ensure that it can remain exactly the same for years to come.
I don't see Angela attacking others or saying you are bad. You are taking what she has said as an inauthentic threat to you and you choose to feel bad when you don't have too. You can choose to look deep inside you and find what is the reason behind feeling attacked by her and choose not to feel threatened and even benefit from what she has said. I don't feel she was dominating at all. She was letting others express their feelings as they wanted and held good intentions in growing. Steve probably has good intentions when pushing people's buttons, but that usually activates people into not listening and pushing you away from what I've seen. Something I believe has happened a lot in this situation, and I don't feel is considerate as communication appears somewhat one sided as in he holds all the cards.
We aren't exclusive or controlling at all. We just simply request that if you join our forum you take responsibility in spiraling up and choosing to feel good. We're not that strict and even have very little moderation. That doesn't say controlling to me. And the forums were not formed because people were displeased with this place; they rather liked it. PD4U was formed for a different atmosphere that is less public and feels a lot more safe.
If you don't know why the forums were formed, but are taking it from someone you heard it from that wasn't part of the forums, it probably isn't very truthful and has a whole lot of spin to it.
One last thing: a lot of people enjoyed the slightly stricter moderation here and were starting to come back including me. Less flaming posts, and greater content... and a little less threads about masturbation.
Then this whole thing happened, and well... we don't want to really participate anymore for bannings that happen without a clear cut reason besides sneaking behind people's backs (we weren't, it was a private invitation among friends initially) and spamming people's inbox (which wasn't anyone's intent and it was an invitation among friends, again).
Thank you for your reply