Originally Posted by Bliss Sage
Concerning transcending...Often people will come to a forum in a vulnerable state because they have found they need help or don't know how to transcend or help themselves out of a serious situation in their real life. I never could relate to that, especially those who would come on saying they were suicidal. I've been suicidal and when I was, the last thing I would ever do would be to go onto a forum to discuss it. But if people do that, if they are reaching for help and think they can get help that way, then...it seems quite awful and cruel to attack someone who is already about as low as a person can possibly ever get in life.
When someone is that low, you don't talk about transcending--well, you can, but it would be as useful as throwing a life preserver to a drowning person with no arms. And if you start regurgitating the usual "100% responsibility" or "being at cause" stuff which became the hallmark of this forum, you might as well just push the drowning guy under. That just gives them more fodder for self-pity and guilt. It's just their state of mind.
I understand. I probably should have been more clear. When people push my
buttons, I consider it an opportunity to clean up my own
buttons. That's what it means to me by "taking responsibility".
But I understand what you're saying. I was once suicidal, myself, and although that was some time before I found this forum, the boards here would be the last place I would have visited in that state, as "personal development" would simply have been the last thing on my mind.
No wonder they left to make their own private forum; they must not have liked being forced to be considerate. That's good now, though, we can all separate and be with the kind of people we like.
Actually, I don't think that was ever a problem with those who went over to PD4U. The creation of that was, apparently, due to some folks here who simply wanted to create an environment more conducive to what they considered beneficial to their own growth. It was also apparently created by Lost My Map some months before Steve's directive or James' and Reefs' banning.