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Originally Posted by carenkh I don't believe the soul enters the body until the "quickening", usually around week 14 after conception. |
What is your reasoning for believing that? There is no scientific evidence that says the soul doesn't enter the body until then. You can't draw a line for something binary (soul in the body) in a hazy region like "has quickening started?" Being experienced with computers I know it's a very big mistake to try to say a fuzzy signal is true or false when there's no clearly defined boundaries. You just can't be sure. Are you willing to gamble with a child's life? The soul can be in a body and not move, and even if you believe it can't, then killing the body the baby is going to live in isn't ok.
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Originally Posted by carenkh Until then, it is *potential* for a life, but not a life. |
HA! I bet an pro-choice doctor told you that. Do you realize that myth still exists because it makes money for doctors performing abortion on pregnant mothers questioning abortion? Again, no scientific reason to believe that. A child learning to read has the "potential" to read, but can't read. People won't stop someone from learning how to read, but they will stop a life from living. How about that.
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Better a screwed up childhood than no childhood. You don't know for certain that people reincarnate. Of course, if everyone got a new body when they died (which is very unlikely when you take the increasing population into account) then murder wouldn't be such an atrocity. It would be more ok. That's pretty disempowering, which is why I don't believe in reinarnation. I too believe in everlasting life, but that doesn't mean you get to live on Earth twice.
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Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina Chinese Dragon, how do you feel about the mom who terminates her pregnancy because she will die if she has the baby? Either because she is delaying treatment for her cancer or due to some other condition? |
Those kinds of abortions are very rare, and most of the time it's because the doctor says the mother's life depends on it when it really doesn't so they get paid to perform an abortion. Abortion still isn't ok in that case though, it's not up to us to decide who lives and who dies. In fact, I'd view it as a plus to not do an abortion in that case. The baby is much younger and has never had a taste of life at all that it will remember so if one or the other is going to die, the baby should live. It's like that joke of the plane going down with 3 passengers and only two parachutes. There's a chinese guy, a father, and a son. The dad says "Son, you take the parachute because I've already lived a full life. You've got your whole life ahead of you. I'll go down with the plane." And the son replies "It's ok daddy. The chinese guy took my backpack."
In spite of my forum name, I'm not chinese, otherwise I wouldn't have cited this joke.