[Lioness]

Originally Posted by Andrew Gubb

I mean we don't need to open doors for them, if they can do it themselves.

There's something I love about keeping little traditions like this. It's not like saying - you poor weak female, I, the big strong man will open the door for you. It's more of a respect thing. Like putting women on a pedestal as a tradition. I like being on a pedestal occasionally! I don't think this equates to discrimination, any more so than men greeting each other with a fist bump or shoulder bump, when they wouldn't do the same to a woman.

Ever been to a nudist beach? I think it's a wonderful thing to be able to look at a naked lady and not consider it something shocking or out of this world. You can still later get excited about her body when you're in a more sexualised setting. It's not an either/or situation.

Yeah, I thought about nude beaches. But they're not the norm and it's your choice to go there. Suppose fitness centers started adopting unisex locker rooms and showers. Suppose the bathrooms on your job and bathrooms in public building and malls were not designated by gender. Suppose school gyms and college dorms had all-gender bathrooms with open showers. Would we get used to it? Should we?

Men don't have to be chivalrous knights who sacrifice everything for women. If we're going for equality, women should also be able to make those traditionally male sacrifices...That said I HATE war and I totally and utterly disagree with obligatory drafting. I get what you're saying if you say it's a bad thing if obligatory drafting for women means twice as many people get drafted. ...)

More than just the draft, what bothers me is the idea of women going into infantry and other combat arms. Not because women are delicate little things that must be kept out of harm's way. But because IMO, this would compromise military effectiveness. Let's be real. With some exceptions, of course, men are bigger, stronger and faster. There are plenty of things women can do as well, if not better than men; fighting against men on a physical level isn't one of them. Even if a woman can meet the same physical fitness standards required of men (currently, there is a lower standard for women) and want to be infantry etc, I think the gender politics would still be a distraction. We can't afford to lessen our strength in combat - it's life and death, and the fate of a nation at stake.

We are different creatures and not interchangeable in all situations. I think there are still a few things that should be kept women/girls only and some men/boys only.