[radscorpion8]

Excellent, new posts :P. Unfortunately no one yet who can talk to God for me (and themselves and others), but I would like to address some new points raised!

Magical Realist: Most of this below is just tangential discussion about what I mean on various subjects. Its kind of irrelevant in terms of my broader interest, but if you're interested in how I approach this read on!

I think people try to manifest the things you've mentioned so often because those are as good a place to start as any.

That's a good point, people probably ask for small stuff as evidence. Perfectly rational, I would support that completely.

If you want to talk to God, talk to God. Think it, write it, speak it--it doesn't matter. That's all you need to do. God's not remote and inaccessible--unless you've thought into being a God who is.

Engaging in a conversation? That can take time and practice to learn how to recognize when you're getting answers and in what form. Learning to trust emotions, intuition, and sudden flashes of insight or new ideas, and recognize them as messages, goes against what we're taught. It's not irrational, but it is non-rational, and it can feel like you're going crazy. That can bring up a lot of anxiety, so a lot of people shut down by going back to a strictly rational worldview.

Well I suppose 99% of us have thought into being a God who is inaccessible, just because of how evidence focused society is. I'm sure God is in theory quite accessible if we change our beliefs, but no matter how much I yell in my head "you created the universe, why can't you talk to me", its not enough (apparently) to dispel my (likely) subconscious beliefs that disallow that communication.

I like the idea of working on a smaller level. I have tried this before but gave up because it didn't seem to be going anywhere. I used to have a deck of cards to perform an experiment where I go through 13 numbers in my head and ask to feel positive emotion when that number I'm thinking of is equal to the number on the card I'm holding face down. But I don't feel anything, or it turns out to be wrong.

Instead I have opted for a law of attraction approach, where if I stay positive enough or repeat a thought (affirmation) enough, I will be able to hear God talking to me in my head. The process is slightly simpler, doesn't require so much trial and error, and in the end I won't be limited to emotional responses but full-fledged sentences explaining things in detail.

Suffice to say it hasn't met with much success. So I have asked for outside help.

So I ask people like you, "Are you really sure you want to open that conversation up all the way? Because it will shake up your life and relationships with other people in ways you can't even begin to imagine--and there's no going back."

There is really no alternative for me. And I imagine God as being omnipotent and omniscient, so assuming that he understands what I'm looking for in my life he would limit his wisdom to what I require rather than denying me my rights (I'm pretty sure he supports free will completely) in asking and creating what I want, by forcing upon me knowledge that would make it impossible to enjoy the "mundane" pleasures that I outline :P.

Honestly? This list of benefits is just as mundane and materialistic as the first one you gave. I honestly don't see much, if any, difference. Just as there is no difference between manifesting a feather or a villa in the south of France in God's eyes, there is no difference between manifesting for one person or all of humanity (strange as that sounds).

Well, lets just agree on the basics. People have free will and would surely enjoy being able to use something like the Law of Attraction to create the life of their dreams. Whether their dreams are filled with materialistic/mundane desires doesn't matter because its their life.

But there's a question of effectiveness. Is the Law of Attraction, as it currently exists and with the current explanations that have been given about its inner workings, sufficient for people to start creating the life of their dreams? I would say in most cases no. People are generally confused, and find it difficult to apply. If someone learns how to talk to God, in theory (because God is all knowing and all powerful), God would be able to clearly explain (through the channel) how people can use the LOA to their advantage.

Secondary benefits would be innumerable to society. Curing various diseases (including cancer), inventing technologies to considerably reduce global warming and avoid the imminent ecological crisis, giving people the tools to never live in poverty again? Yes these things in theory could be done with the LOA - but I imagine it would be easier if God could just talk to you and explain how they could be eliminated, complete with an action plan and set of ideas to use in conjunction with the LOA. Currently, the LOA on its own hasn't eliminated any of these major world problems. But I imagine God could.

I don't really have a problem with materialism. I just want people to be able to live the life of their dreams (respecting their free will of course) without the confusion that the LOA has inadvertently brought about so far. If in the process of talking to God they find things better than materialism, so be it. I really just want clear, accessible information to help people.

It is given. You just don't recognize it, because you have decided that it must happen in one specific way or it's not happening.

It's like trying to manifest a conversation with someone, but you're determined that it must be via email. So you keep checking your email. But in the meantime, you're letting all of your phone calls go to voice mail (and never checking your messages) because you've decided they're irrelevant.

But why would God try to talk to me in other, less clear ways, when he could easily manifest a conversation in my head? If the only variable here is my level of belief or how positive I am, then anything should be achievable. Even if "ask and it is given" is vague, the statement by Abraham that "There is nothing you can not be, do, or have" implies that if I ask for a conversation in my head I can receive it just as easily as anything else. In addition the book "conversations with god" states that "ye are gods" and that we just need to start acting like gods. If I truly am a God then I should be able to create whatever I want.

With this in mind, what possible reason could there be for God talking to me in ways that I don't expect, or find vague and confusing, when I specifically ask for something that is simple and immediately comprehensible? There seems to be a strong implication here of limitations, that if I choose to talk to God it must be through vague, emotional or intuitive understandings of human made signs and sounds that I can misunderstand.

What kind of God would I be, if I can't manifest a conversation in my head? That I can't be a specific God?

Besides that, I have openly asked God to talk to me in any way he deems fit, so long as it is *clear* to me. That is, I don't want to have to decipher whether an ad on the radio is meant for me or not based on a vague feeling that I'm having. God can send an e-mail, phone me, appear as an apparition, or communicate to me through morse code via a blinking light on my keyboard (seriously).

That hasn't happened :P. But I still hope!

You might receive guidance through other means, but what Abe-Hicks calls the "emotional guidance system" is the most basic means of tapping in to divine guidance. If you can learn to use it effectively, that alone will be an enormous help to you.

I just wanted to come back to this idea. I think it is very useful. The plan is to stay positive. Maybe I'll ask God some yes or no questions today, or do my experiment with the cards, and see if I can feel those emotions!

Also thank you for your affirmation ideas. I think the best choice for now is for me to stay positive (as Abraham says that's all you need to do!). So if I can truly trust Abraham as a divine messenger...there's really no better option. My skepticism always pops up and tells me to do something else besides being positive though. I think my problem is that I don't stick to any of my ideas...which you have made very clear to me. So that's what I'll try.

In the end invoking God to clarify things and help people may be unnecessary, maybe all I really needed to do (and should ask of other people) is to stay positive as long as I can, stubbornly continuing until I've done it for a few months...and then experience the results (hopefully).

That's what I loved about Abraham, they were the only ones to clearly outline something simple that would work. I just hope they are a real source of channeled information. But from my experiences and conversations with others I think they are.

*sigh* anyways I tire of my own thread. I'll probably go away and stay positive. I may come back to peruse the forums and maybe check out any other posts...but I'll probably be relaxing on my couch feeling as positive as I can. Good day people!