Originally Posted by radscorpion8
...when I look at other people's ideas, its either about manifesting:
A better job
That parking space you always wanted
Peace and wellbeing
I just wanted to make a request to somebody, who really has this manifestation stuff down, and feels like he/she could create whatever they desire if they focused enough.
I think people try to manifest the things you've mentioned so often because those are as good a place to start as any. They're immediate concerns, and they're concrete and specific enough to provide evidence for the LoA when they do manifest. They also tend to be things people believe they can have, which is crucial to successful manifesting.
Many people don't believe they can talk to God, so they don't try to manifest that. Or they do, but they're so attached to a specific outcome--they want a booming voice from the sky, or some intense mystical experience--that they can't recognize all the ways in which God actually is speaking to them (and always has been).
While I myself haven't managed to talk to God...I believe that someone out there could on my behalf, and on the behalf of countless others.
If you want to talk to God, talk to God. Think it, write it, speak it--it doesn't matter. That's all you need to do. God's not remote and inaccessible--unless you've thought into being a God who is.
Engaging in a conversation? That can take time and practice to learn how to recognize when you're getting answers and in what form. Learning to trust emotions, intuition, and sudden flashes of insight or new ideas, and recognize them as messages, goes against what we're taught. It's not irrational, but it is non-
rational, and it can feel like you're going crazy. That can bring up a lot of anxiety, so a lot of people shut down by going back to a strictly rational worldview.
There's a reason most mystics in Western culture were (and still are) perceived as being various degrees of nuts by "normal" people; once you start communicating freely with God, most mundane, worldly concerns cease to matter. Many of them--including the ones most people regard with the utmost seriousness--become a joke. And once that door's cracked open and you've got even a glimpse of eternity, you can't un-see it and go back to being the person you were.
So I ask people like you, "Are you really sure you want to open that conversation up all the way? Because it will shake up your life and relationships with other people in ways you can't even begin to imagine--and there's no going back."
If that person learned to talk to God, these are the potential benefits that would derive from that conversation. Through God's wisdom and understanding, someone could learn how to: |
Use the law of attraction perfectly
Use intuition perfectly
(As a result of the first two) Be perfectly capable of manifesting money, a great job, a relationship
Act as a channel to give people a perfect understanding of their problems
Learn schematics and designs that could revolutionize several industries (energy, agriculture, computer)
Cure cancer (among many other things)
So to me that sounds better than most common goals, and would be a great investment of time.
Honestly? This list of benefits is just as mundane and materialistic as the first one you gave. I honestly don't see much, if any, difference. Just as there is no difference between manifesting a feather or a villa in the south of France in God's eyes, there is no difference between manifesting for one person or all of humanity (strange as that sounds).
Anyways hopefully someone is able...if not I'll keep trying to repeat "I can communicate with God" maybe 100 times a day at least
Try "God has always been speaking to me, and I am now aware of all the ways in which this happens."
Originally Posted by radscorpion8
...But I don't understand...if he really said "ask and it is given", and I ask for a conversation, why isn't it given?
It is given. You just don't recognize it, because you have decided that it must happen in one specific way or it's not happening.
It's like trying to manifest a conversation with someone, but you're determined that it must
be via email. So you keep checking your email. But in the meantime, you're letting all of your phone calls go to voice mail (and never checking your messages) because you've decided they're irrelevant.
The person you desperately want to communicate with might be calling you a dozen times a day, wanting to speak with you, but you're so fixated on email that you don't see that, and then you wonder why they're uncommunicative.
I guess I find it kind of confusing. Also I read conversations with god :P. The advice it gives I have problems following (the manifesting stuff asks you to have the certainty that Jesus did...which is extremely difficult to achieve, and I can't force myself to)...
This is why you start out with smaller manifestations for things you do believe you can have (parking spaces). Then, once you know I-M works, you can start manifesting things that might have seemed far more difficult (a dream job). And then you move on to seemingly impossible things.
And no, you can't force yourself to have certainty; having to force it means you still have doubts. You gain certainty through experience--by attempting I-M until you find the techniques that work for you, and get good at it.
I remember one passage that said if you repeat a thought, or a word, often enough it becomes manifested in your reality. [...] |
But every time I set myself up to repeat something 1000 times for an hour straight it fails. Maybe I could try it for intervals, but then it just feels weak. Like how long do I repeat it...and then I have doubts as to whether it'll work or not based on some other thoughts I may not be consciously aware of. So I thought maybe someone else can do it!
The doubt comes before the failure. It doesn't work the way you wanted it to because you doubt it will.
One technique I use is to replace doubts or limiting beliefs with better ways of thinking is to either speak or write an affirmative statement of intention 100 times* in a row. And in that process, I do experience doubt. Sometimes it's the thought that "this is stupid." Sometimes it's boredom, wanting to stop and go do something else rather than stick it out for the full 100 repetitions. Sometimes it's painful cramps in my writing hand that make writing difficult almost from the start--even though I normally have no trouble writing 15-20 pages longhand.
The trick, I've found, is to stick with it, to keep pushing onward despite the doubt. Recognize the doubts, acknowledge them, and don't try to fight them (because that only strengthens them)--just keep on speaking or writing in spite of them. By the time I'm done, doubts have usually long since faded into the background. If I still feel like they're lingering, I might examine them, asking myself why they're there and what might be a more effective phrase for overwriting them, but most of the time they're gone for good by the time I'm done.
*For me, 1000 repetitions of one phrase would be overkill. It sounds exhausting! So if I'm trying to replace an old belief, I'll do multiple sessions with variations on the new belief I want to embed, coming at it from slightly different angle each time.