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Old 11-15-2006, 05:20 AM   #6 (permalink)
Holden McNeil
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Originally Posted by cedc View Post
Just curious, how do you plan to "try it out"? I assume you're talking about subjective reality. And how are you expecting subjective reality to help with your fears?
Basically what Steve says in the "overcoming fear" podcast; talking about nonduality and how not viewing everything/one as distinct and seperate from you, and instead feeling at one/connected to everything, would naturally cause a whole bunch of fears to dissipate. It seems cool and empowering simply from reading his experiences with it (eg: "soulful relationships"), so i'm willing to give it a go. why not, right? I'm very curious. I'm simply not sure exactly how to go about it, since it's such a fundamental belief, and my attempts so far make me feel like i'm missing something. So in answering your question, i've got no idea how i plan to try it out.

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Believing in subjective reality will not serve you much. You could believe in Santa Claus but I doubt that'll get you a visit to your house on Christmas
Oh, the way subjective reality sounds to me is if you actually believe that it's a more accurate view of reality (& that your beliefs therefore create your reality) - then you truly believe that santa claus exists and visits you every Christmas (for one reason or another), then shouldn't that be true?

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As for the Law of Attraction, LOA implies an objective viewpoint by its very nature so has little to do with experiencing a subjective viewpoint. From a subjective viewpoint you would be best served by contemplating the law of creation instead.
The way i've been interpreting it so far - to really believe/get results in the LOA/IM, a subjective reality viewpoint is basically mandatory. Otherwise there seems to be inconsistencies that the LOA can't explain (again, this is what Steve says in "the nature of reality" podcast) That's why i'm wondering whether experience with IM/LOA would help in breaking my beliefs about objective reality, and help shape subjective beliefs to be put in their place.

I'll have to read the rest of your post slowly cedc, the first time it just went over my head Thanks for the feedback.

And Jill - that is quite simple, but it does make a lot of sense to me. Although when I think/fantasize about this really being the case, I find it difficult to hold onto (really, honestly believe). Maybe I need some more resources/reading. At the moment I feel like i'm just "oh yeah, probably" but not really saying "no, it's actually more accurate".
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