Originally Posted by Indiana
No, I don't think there's any 'should' in there, it's just describing what currently is. It would be marvellous if everyone agreed not to discriminate based on looks, but I think you're going to have a hard time getting the whole world on board. It's taken long enough to just get the media to show a moderately representative range of people and that's an actual industry you can legislate against.
All you can do is decide that you are not going to discriminate based on looks. Everyone else, however, may not get on board, so it helps to know that there are ways you can respond to biases inherent in society.
I think you're right. Thanks. And it's good to see you posting again.
Originally Posted by ButterflyWoman
I will say it now with NO reservations: I AM SORRY! I APOLOGISE. That's it. Full stop. The end. I'm sorry.
Leaving the conversation now. And I'm not going to enter into another such conversation again, because clearly it's a minefield.
And, again, I AM sorry, as well as humiliated.
I hope you don't stay away from these conversations forever.
I thought your input was valuable, and I didn't mean to make you feel bad. I work in a bakery, so I get comments about my weight every day. I'm kind of used to it, and I know we already PMd, but I wasn't mad at you, or anything -- I just wanted to point out that it's not much different whether people make comments about being fat or being thin. I'm sorry if I did that in an antagonistic way. We're all on the same side, and I don't think we should be fighting amongst ourselves.
Originally Posted by Brutha
If the social context that determines what you find beautiful is mainstream media, why do you expose yourself to mainstream media.
I started thinking about all of this because of conversations with my coworkers, not from looking at models.
Agota... I have to say that I completely disagree that it's easier for someone overweight to lose than it is for a naturally thin person to gain (and I say this as someone who's been struggling to gain a measly 5 pounds for the last 2 months). If it were that easy, they would probably do it. I don't think it's right to make assertions like that unless you've been in those shoes.