Bluth - Take a look at St Francis as an example. Prior to awakening, he would say something like "Lord, how I've longed to know you with all my heart. Please reveal yourself to me in each moment!" After awakening, he is reported to have said things like "Let me undertand more than be understood. Where there is hatred let me sow love."
There more we are willing to merge dualities, to embody what we want from others (i.e. love, understanding), the more every word from our lips becomes a prayer. It starts with a willingness in our prayers to be one with Source/Creator, and it continues as we realize that Source/Creator is always working through us. We are it, and it is us.
Jeshua's form of internal prayer would be to remember that "I and my Father are One" consistently, then from that fullness of knowing that everything was at his fingertips, when he would actually externally verbally pray, it was for the needs of others.
Cheesedip - That movie played like an S&M wet dream for someone who felt guilty over Jeshua suffering. It was way over the top.
He was already not eating or sleeping much when he was taken, scourged, a crown of thorns placed on his head and pushed down hard enough to draw blood, some more beating by the Romans, taken to Herod and back again to Pilate, the walk up the hill being tied to the cross beam, falling a few times, people yelling and throwing things, being crucified. The abuse could have been much worse than it was, because previous Messiah candidates did receive worse treatment. And because of the people having watched previous cases, the perception of it was worse than the reality.
Weena - I can totally understand how you might feel this way. Many of us had interesting treatment by the Romans, and then also had lives where we were Roman to get the other side of the story. Even people who have had esoteric Christian lives, have usually had the hardcore religious lives, whether it was as a priest/nun/monk, inquisitor, or crusader. We tend to want to have the full experience. In some cases we have tried to exact justice on the very people/organization that harmed us. We might have been tortured by the Inquisition, and then immediately came back as a Muslim invader. Life is funny, and lifetimes are even funnier.
AllisWell - You're very welcome! Yes you're absolutely right about that. Any esoteric spiritual path that gave people a direct, personal experience of knowing themselves as divine (i.e. earth-based paths like the Druids), or any organization that protected the grail bloodline (i.e. Knight's Templar), were systematically tortured, converted or killed. It was about maintaining control over the masses. You cannot maintain control with enlightened beings walking around with a different version of reality than what the Church was trying to market and enforce. And yet on the upside, the Church has a carried a miniscule portion of truth forward over time for people to chew on (i.e. Sermon on the Mount) and perhaps begin to question more.
The bloodline is still active, and so are Jeshua and Mary as ascended masters.
Everyone from that group - family, disciples - either ascended in that life or in others. There are some people who were around back then who have reincarnated now, not because they karmically had to for their own personal path, but rather to help out at this time of transition.
I always recommend learning how to access the Records if we can stay balanced and focus on what is important - helping ourselves and others become more conscious and loving in each moment.
Last edited by ChrisL; 12-13-2011 at 07:47 PM.