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Originally Posted by Indiana That's just not true. She simply wasn't any bigger than modern-day starlets, regardless of the baseless 'Marilyn Monroe was a size 14' rumour that regularly does the rounds. I mean... all you have to do is look at a picture of her to see how petite she is. |
I'm referring to the countless people I've seen and heard saying that Marilyn Monroe was "fat", by their definition. Liz Hurley said once that if she was as fat as Marilyn Monroe, she'd kill herself. When you look at early pictures of MM, especially some of her "bathing beauty" shots, you see she had beautiful, womanly, full thighs and a rounded tummy. Compare that to Victoria Beckham, who is an actual fashion designer, with her "Lollipop" look (big head on a scrawny, skinny frame) and to Kate Moss, who was (and is) an icon of beauty and fashion.
That's the frame of reference I was using.

NOT that I think MM was fat, but that a lot of people DO.
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Originally Posted by Indiana I actually think the standards for 'acceptable' female bodies are broader right now than they have probably been for the last 20 years. |
They are improving, yes, but a Rubens-style figure is still out of fashion (and for the record, making fun of fat people is still considered socially acceptable in most circles; you can't make racist comments, sexist comments, ethnic slurs, etc., but you can ramble on about body size, and that's fine. BUT... that's another discussion

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