Originally Posted by juridisch
What you say might apply to some pua stuff, but certainly not all of it is disrepectfull towards women.
I'm reading your messages about polyamory with interest.
I have a quite radical view on PUA, which could be hard for some to swallow.
I think PUA wouldn't exist without some sort of fundamental error. The very name contains that error. Women don't need to be "picked up", they don't need to be convinced to do anything, there doesn't need to be any technique involved in getting to be with them. Any efforts to improve your chances in the dating arena have to be entirely self-oriented and not oriented on what you can get others to do. This last thing is a very radical precept that is easy to agree with and hard to really, really get.
That said I think some PUAs start to get it to lesser or greater extents. When they really, really get it, I think they stop calling themselves PUAs, partly because the name contains the fundamental error, and partly because they don't want to be associated with the errors of the field as a whole.
That said it's a long process and I think you have to be a hard-ass son-of-a-b*tch like me [joke arrogance] to manage that whole process in a single lifetime.
Hope this makes some sense.