[VinceG]

Originally Posted by ChrisL

If they could have looked past the prophecies, it would have been easier, but the people were waiting....expecting. Look at several of the world religions today - still waiting, expecting. It's impossible to get people in the present moment when they are still projecting into the future.

Ahh, I see now. Rather than ascend privately, as humans had in the past, Jeshua ascended publicly, creating a record and a pathway for doing so. I imagine this had a great deal to do with energy. The energy he ascended with came as much from his followers and witnesses as it did from him.

Jeshua was already enlightened and had to cut through a lot of backwards thinking back then.

I can see this. In my studies of enlightened people I've always been struck by how the surrounding culture reflects on the master. So much of what was taught simply isn't applicable today, and the errors compound upon themselves and create this cacophony of noise we need to cut through. The general level of consciousness is higher, which is nice because you don't have to worry about getting killed, but you have to exercise a lot more discipline because it gets harder to tell where the true path lies.

he would mainly sit silently in our physical dimension and be busy in other parallel dimensions.

What did he do in these parallel dimensions? And is this the same or a similar mechanism to what we call astral projection?

The techniques we use to get there are almost unimportant.

Yes, I've constantly seen throughout my explorations that the end result of consistent existence in a non-dual state of mind can be done in so many ways that it's almost not even worth discussing, for fear of creating distractions that push one out of the present.

Then our willingness to start living beyond time and space will take us into the next step. We can start having experiences of parallel dimensions and other timeframes, at the same time we are having our physical experience here and now. Then the next step could be ascension - our soul raising the physical vibratory rate of the body so that it becomes a soul also. So if we want to choose ascension, then having a vision of our life beyond our normal workaday world is important. Being around people who are of similar mindframe is very important, otherwise we will feel drained.

You say the next step 'could' be ascension. Are there others?