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Old 12-11-2011, 04:43 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot View Post
May I add that Occam's Razor is fundamentally flawed as a logical tool.

The problem with Occam's Razor is that it presumes:

(1) what you think you know is actually correct;
(2) what you know is more than what you don't know.
(3) the truth is likelier to be simple rather than complex.

All of these are presumptions.

Consider a young child, relying on his own sensory perceptions and not understanding the law of gravity and not having heard of Columbus etc. Thinking logically, and applying Occam's Razor, the child would conclude that the earth is flat.

In a way, we can all be susceptible to the risk of falling into the same trap as that young child.
There's many problems with Occam's razor, yes. It's a tool that works more often than it doesn't though, for the reasoned adult. It's flawed, but it has a lot of value regardless.

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Originally Posted by quiethumir View Post
Ok AlG. Let me rephrase the question:

Let's make it hypothetical. Can a good person who is always positive, optimistic, loving, etc., ever attract negative circumstances to them, like losing their job, having their wife/husband leave them, losing a lot of money, get robbed, get murdered, etc. by virtue of LoA?

Let me know if that question is still vague for you
I doubt such a person exists. Whatever answer one gives is nothing but a hypothesis based on that observation.

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Originally Posted by waizen View Post
Nah... there's too much more going on here of importance to ignore.

First, I don't believe in coincidences. For any event, there are far more behind-the-scenes things going on than we all give credit for. The universe is, I believe, the master coordinator of events and every entity, human or not, experiences events with an infinite intelligence coordinating things.

I'll let Richard answer this one for me.
Why did you connect those dots? What is your reasoning? Your observations?

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Finally, I don't believe anyone needs to explain how LoA works...to make it fit into the model of LoA, as you say...in order to make it work. It just does. To me, it just makes for an interesting conversation.
I disagree with the bolded part. If it is a ''Law'' as suggested, there must be some mathematical formula to it, just like there is for all natural laws like gravity. I can accept ''we haven't found it yet''. ''We don't need to explain it'' reeks of intellectual laziness to me to be honest.
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