Originally Posted by Peterw
I think we need to start looking beyond the extremes and polarities. My stance stays the same as it has been for a while now. I believe that change is needed and that change should come from educating and enabling people to make the changes from inside the current 'system'
I think this is the most realistic approach.
Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot
If you aren't good enough to make a living from doing what you want to do - that's the problem.
And if you don't want to work, but you still expect to live on other people's money .... Well, if those "other people" are your parents, then that's their problem. If those "other people" are taxpayers, then that makes you a leech.
This is one of the big problems that I have with the concept of money itself. If you're not bringing it in, others will think less of you. They'll think you're lazy and you don't work. As an artist, I can tell you this is far from the truth
. There's an extremely small percentage of the population who's born with remarkable natural talents. Those people can
jump immediately to being profitable. If they meet the right people and have decent social skills etc. For the rest of us, we have to make sacrifices. A lot of us take ♥♥♥♥ jobs. I chose welfare. I sacrificed short and medium-term material comfort for my training, with no guarantees of a pay off. All so that I could give all my focus to my career.
What if I have a car accident and die tomorrow? What's the verdict? Leech? Cause I see myself as someone who's unwilling to compromise on his dreams. I don't care
if I succeed or not, as seen through someone else's eyes. I care about knowing that I gave it my 100%. That, to me, is success.
It's attitudes like yours ALG that stigmatizes people like me. Thought you should know.
And it's the profit system that stunts general human creative growth. Because people somehow expect artists to be millionaires without realizing all the hard work that goes into it. Or the years of poverty they endured before getting there. We could enrich ourselves collectively so much more if we gave kids the freedom to explore their natural abilities and passions, including creative ones.
Originally Posted by siryessir08
Unfortunately it's deeply ingrained into our consciousness (by design) that people without jobs are lazy. We've been told that if someone doesn't have work, they deserve it. We've been told that we can't follow our passions because we have to pay the bills. "If you want to make the world a more beautiful place, and major in art... then *$%$ you... you can get a job at McDonalds. You're 'art' is worthless. You would be serving the world much better working for McDonalds." Sure.
Thanks a million. You have no idea how much of a kick I got out of that one!