[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Apopohis Reject

I'm sorry ALG but I just don't buy it.

Then you have to decide which is the point you don't buy it.

- Your parents are made of muscles, bones, skin etc. Do you buy this or not?

- Muscles, bones, skin are made of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen atoms in different combinations. Do you buy this or not?

- C, H and O are made of atoms. Do you buy this or not?

- Atoms are mostly empty space and some electrons, protons and neutrons. Do you buy this or not?

Etc. Therefore your parents are mostly empty space. Do you buy this or not?

The reason why you have difficulty buying it is that the "real world" - as you observe it to be - is so very, very different from what I am telling you.

What you may not be grasping at this point is that that's how formidable your powers as a creator are. You have perceived into existence a "real world" .... out of empty space.

Thus to the extent that you can alter your perception (and your thoughts) about the "real world", it will change. I mean, you already created it, as it is, out of empty space. What else couldn't you do?

Not to say that there are no limits, of course. There are huge limits. The limits are what you can do with your mind.

I would like to leave you with a quote from Professor Bernard d'Espagnat. Firstly, his CV so that you know that he is not a quack off the streets.

D'Espagnat obtained his Ph.D. from the Sorbonne at the Institut Henri Poincaré under the guidance of Louis de Broglie. He was a researcher at the Centre National de Recherche Scientifique CNRS, 1947-57. During this period he also worked with Enrico Fermi in Chicago, 1951–52, and on a research project led by Niels Bohr at the Institute in Copenhagen, 1953-54. He then pursued his scientific career at the Centre d'Etudes et de Recherches Nucleaires (CERN) in Geneva and, as a theoretical physicist, at the European Organisation for Nuclear Research, 1954-59.

From 1959 until his retirement in 1987, D'Espagnat was a senior lecturer at the Faculty of Sciences at the Sorbonne University. He was director of the Laboratory of Theoretical Physics and Elementary Particles at the University of Paris XI (Orsay), 1980-87. He was a visiting professor at the University of Texas, Austin in 1977, and at the University of California - Santa Barbara in 1984.

Now, for the quote. This is taken from his paper in Scientific American in 1979.

"The doctrine that the world is made up of objects whose existence is independent of human consciousness turns out to be in conflict with quantum mechanics and with facts established by experiment."

Read that sentence carefully, a few times, and let the enormity of it sink in.