Originally Posted by Apopohis Reject
Please, I'm trying to get a better handle on this. In what way was your friend never 'born'? He entered the world as a baby from his mother's womb like the rest of us didn't he? What do you call that if not 'born'?
So prior to your parents communicating, which commenced the natural process towards your friend being 'born' (assuming this to be the correct word) into his 'physical' actuality, which you relate to nowadays, how exactly was the previous actuality the same for him? And you?
NOTE, THAT I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS TRUE, MERELY ANSWER YOU FROM A SUBJECTIVE PERSPECTIVE WHICH IS I THINK WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.
In the subjective reality framework, there are no "events" only experiences that happen one time after another. The physical world is constructed by your subconcious mind in the same way in a dream the subconsious is able to create entire worlds.
In our "physical world" things are solid and have coninuity, but its only the illusion of it, however at the end of the day said world is not bound by more rules than your nightly dreams. When you interact with other people you are merely exchanging experiences with other individualized consiousness. You percieve people that are only in tune with the reality you are experiencing.
The physical world is constructed either by your physical brain doing electromagnetic interpretation, or a mind that create said "objective" outputs, your brain then interprets what is written in said signals and shoot the "out there" reality, in the same way a projector shoot a movie to the screen. A good analogy would be a videogame, there is no videogame at all, merely a bunch of numbers and letters which the compiler "read" and then shoot into the scream the scenery and virtual reality of characters existing and fighting.
So about your parents and stuff, it isnt real at all. Merely these are a bunch of experienced which appear to be conected by continuity but arent really, just like a movie is conected frame per frame, but you could calmly delete a frame from the movie and it would still run. Basically experiences created second per second, given the illusion of continuity.
So you are born in the world, your parents had you. But actually you only exist right now, the previous momment is gone is not real, you had a reality as a child and now as an adult. But the illusion of continuity makes you think a sequence in time is the one responsible, you are in tune with other consiousness that perceive reality in the same way as you do, which being a child that grew in time in an objective framework. All you have really are experiences.
So in a subjective reality, you could in theory wake up tomorrow as an old man without having to age, be young again, wake up as a beggar or as the richest man in the world, as a prisoner or as a king.
But this is extremelly unlikely since the mind is likely to keep sending organized sequences that create an objective experience.
At the end of the day in subjective reality if you could see things are they "really are" the only thing you would see in the entire universe more or less like this:
Countless formless waves or formless light that is traduced as a physical enviroment.
Why then we perceive reality the way we do?
Who knows, some would tell you is a random experience you picked up. Others that your previous "karmas" or experiences left an impression in you that makes you see reality as you see it. Others would tell you it is your soul or higher self which is sending this information to "you" to interpret reality the way you do.
This is a possible explanation as to why for some people LOA works since is all a matter of interpretation, the question is, is it done at an extra-physical or higher self level and as such changed would had to be done at that level? or would changing the immediate physical output would be enough to bring it into "real objectivization" or "actuality" as all levels are connected?