11-18-2011, 08:32 PM
Join Date: Nov 2011
Originally Posted by Arcanum
Yes, it's true that lots of folks would like to sound as though they realize more than they do, and many claim realization based on experiences they had or concepts they grasp fully. It's natural to want to believe we're more aware than we are, and I find most actually do believe it and are being sincere, and really there's no harm done.
What I was specifically addressing is the notion that oneness realization would mean that the one realizing this would no longer enjoy talking to others, perhaps because it seems tantamount to sitting in a room talking to yourself? I don't know.
We could say that relationship is what's going on here, whether it's relating to beauty, wonder, pain, loss, or another sentient creature like a person or animal. Life has an inherent interest in relating to life, and while it looks different when it is known that you are the intelligence that relates through all creatures, it never becomes a separate person relating to himself. What actually occurs is the withdrawing of identity from the separate person in the realization that the relating takes place, and has always taken place, quite by itself, and the identification was merely an idea overlayed onto this relating.
As such, the relating continues. There is no 'clear light' experience and the world doesn't disappear and the person doesn't become a mind reader or see himself as the same as other persons. The person is left to relate as a person relating to other persons, and there is simply the awareness of this relating, see? This is why no person ever becomes enlightened or merges with anything or becomes a conscious co-creator or the possessor of great knowledge or powers. The person continues being what it has always been; one of a nearly infinite number of expressions of what you are, still unique, wondrous and mysterious.
Arcanum, that is brilliant. I seriously think you should put all those you have written in a book, and I will be the first one to buy it. I am not referring to financial gains but it is a way to help others, like myself, to understand.