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Old 11-09-2011, 04:06 AM   #722 (permalink)
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To be honest, I don't understand this at all. If you are pro-life, by definition, you must see pro-choice people as murderers as you see the fetus as a human being. This, as far as I can see, is the premise of the pro-life position. Conversely, if you are pro-life, you must be anti-woman as you are basically advocating for their legal and reproductive rights to be taken away from them under the unproven assumption that the fetus constitutes a human being.

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Originally Posted by James81 View Post
My point being that because I take a pro-baby mindset in this discussion, does not mean that I am anti-woman. I think it would do for a LOT of people who are pro-choice to understand that. In the same way that pro-choice are not baby murderers, pro-life people are not anti-woman.
Yes it does. The whole legal battle for reproductive rights was fought in order to alleviate the suffering of women, and by extension, their loved ones. You cannot speak of choices that are divorced from the real world. Women will rationally choose to undergo an illegal abortion and risk their lives and health doing so because they see the consequences of not doing so as potentially incurring greater harm. There is a simple solution for this. Protect the right that women ought to have to control their reproduction via the State. Give women the ability to choose the option that will best meet their physical, emotional and spiritual needs and the needs of their family.


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Because the argument has nothing to do with women's suffering. A woman getting an abortion when it's illegal is not a woman's suffering issue. That's a CHOICE that she makes. If that choice brings suffering, then, again, she chose that. It wasn't forced upon her to go have an illegal abortion. That was the point I was making. Don't just automatically negate the element of choice in that situation. A woman does not HAVE to stick a coat hanger up her vagina. She chooses to do that. And in choosing to do that, she assumes the risk that is involved with it.

So, you might say I'm Pro-Taking-Responsibility-For-Your-Choices.
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