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Originally Posted by Max Power Why can't god (you) become completely bored or lonely and then invent a complete rich diverse physical reality, place an observer there and create 24/7 and experience the creation. |
God could, but then god might not need to do anything to experience creation. God might just need to think about it and in doing so know exactly what it's like, without anything actually happening. That thought might be something God can dwell in for a long time, as if It were truly experiencing it.
But you're right, maybe God did have to create all this. All I'm asking is that you don't forget that there are other possibilities.
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Originally Posted by Hoppipola Sorry for being realistic, Mark. |
That's fatalism, not realism. But if you're a teenager then it's understandable, I was that way for far too long.
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Originally Posted by Hoppipola It's not that easy for everybody, you know. I mean I still have school to go through. I still have to get my license. (Damn NJ driver laws) I'm still young; I can't just leave everything behind, as much as I want to go out and see the world. |
You don't have to go far. You don't even have to leave your state. You could just spend time with friends, or make some new ones, and talk about things that are important to you all. Or talk about nothing. And leave the negativity alone unless you're actually going to do something to make it better.
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Originally Posted by Hoppipola Personally, I think life is just passing time until you die. And there are so many people out there who don't even know what fun or pleasure is, only of death or hunger... I'm sure they'd want something miraculous to happen too. |
It does no-one any good to compare situations, unless doing so leads to improvement. Otherwise you just end up justifying and reinforcing your own negativity.
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Originally Posted by Hoppipola Well... Compare your favorite video game / book / fiction anything to the real life now. Which would you prefer? |
Heh, if I choose what I just watched I don't think you'd be happy. Zegapain, an anime set in a post-apocalyptic world. Almost all humans have been wiped out and the remaining ones are just data in a few quantum computers scattered around the remains of the Earth... I'd prefer real life
(btw it's a fun anime to watch if you want to see how they question what it means to be human, and what it means to be alive. But it's not very deep.)
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Originally Posted by Hoppipola I do photography and writing. Both show me the beauty of this world, despite death and sadness, and going out and living a little won't change the fact that nothing truly amazing can happen. Like something epic. |
Looking for something more amazing causes you to compare what you've got with what you imagine you'd want. Something that doesn't exist. Does it make any sense to degrade your enjoyable experiences that way?
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Originally Posted by Hoppipola If you haven't noticed, most of middle class America basically have the same lifestyle. It's just something typical, and almost unavoidable for the norm! You know like college, the job, wife, family, Christmas dinners, birthdays, retirement etc. And all these other places have their own typical lifestyle that most of them go through. And that's it. |
So? Doesn't mean you have to do the same... Look at Steve. He took a different path and look where he is now!
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Originally Posted by Hoppipola How about you, Mark? What makes you so different, unique? What makes this world, this reality so stunning and amazing? |
I'm doing exactly what I want to be doing. Going back to uni, studying something I'm wholeheartedly interested in, something that I truly believe will help all of us. Psychology and Neuroscience. By understanding ourselves and each other more completely we can help each other, and even love each other more.
This world and this reality are stunning and amazing because there's always something new to learn, always someone new to meet, always somewhere new to visit, always something new to do. And if you get tired of chasing after novelty all the time you can sit and enjoy what you already have. Or share it with your friends.
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Originally Posted by Hoppipola Magic can't happen, space travel probably won't happen, flying or giant robot aliens, it can't. |
Magic is another word for something cool we don't understand. Remote controls would look like magic to people of the distant past. Same with lighters, torches, laser pointers. Hell, even radios. Need I go on?
We used to think flying was impossible. Fast-forward a century or so and we're landing on the moon.
This universe is huge beyond most people's comprehension (yeah, mine too). You think we're alone in it?
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Originally Posted by Hoppipola P.S. Nobody knows what God or Heaven or eternity is like, so please don't refute my own thought  The most you can do is guess really. |
Exactly my point! The most we can do is guess, and our guessing will be based on our own experiences, which are
human experiences. I highly doubt that a god would feel the same things humans do. But I could be wrong.
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Originally Posted by Hoppipola And what I was saying was... okay, so what if Gods can't get bored. So that must mean they'd be entertained 100% of the time. Also meaning they've never experienced boredom. So what is excitement when you cannot compare it to something less exciting; something boring? Would it not just be a neutral feeling? |
To us, yes. Exactly my point again. Would it be the same to a god? Who knows...
But in the end, is there any point in asking these questions? Does it give you what you want from life?