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Motivational Seminar Recap

September 28th, 2005 by Steve Pavlina          Email this article to a friend Email this article to a friend

I had a great time at the motivational seminar yesterday. While I can’t share a full day’s worth of information in a single blog entry, I’ll share some of the highlights and the things I learned.

The seminar took place in the Mandalay Bay Events Center, a gigantic indoor stadium with a raised speaking platform in the bottom center, like what you’d see used for a boxing match. This meant that the speaker was surrounded by people on all sides. I estimated there were about 10,000 people there, so it’s definitely one of the largest seminars I’ve attended. One of the speakers also threw out the number 10,000 as an estimate of attendees.

I went with several friends from Toastmasters, and it’s fair to say we weren’t there just for the content but also for the opportunity to see other speakers in action and to observe and evaluate their skills. Initially I could tell some of us found it hard to get out of “speaker evaluation” mode and to just listen to the content. It’s hard not to count a speaker’s ums and ahs or to notice their platform skills like vocal variety and gestures, since these are skills we work on in Toastmasters.

I also tried to get a sense for how each speaker’s message impacted the audience. Did they seem genuine or phony? Did it seem like anything they said was going to permanently change anyone’s thinking or actions?

Keep in mind that the following is based my own personal observations and opinions, so obviously it’s going to be biased towards what I like and don’t like.

Here we go….

Steve Forbes (of Forbes magazine) was the first speaker. He talked about thinking outside the box, embracing change, and going against conventional wisdom. I thought his speaking skills were good, and I sensed he was connecting with the audience well. But I personally didn’t get much from his content — to me it was neither original nor profound. He used many financial and business examples, and he got us all laughing with strong humor. But I can’t say that this speech had any lasting impact on me. That isn’t to say he didn’t do a good job — I just didn’t resonate with his message.

Zig Ziglar came on next. He was the person I was most looking forward to seeing, and this was the first time I’ve seen him speak live. My reaction was a bit mixed. On the positive side, Zig had great humor, loads of personal stories, and compelling content. However, I found this particular speech to be a bit unfocused and disorganized. It seemed to me that Zig was trying to cram about two hours of content into a one-hour speech. He spoke at an incredibly rapid rate for the entire hour, and I personally found it overwhelming and had trouble following him consistently. He was also stepping on his laughs. (”Stepping on laughs” means that when you say something funny, you don’t give the audience sufficient time to react and to finish laughing. You start talking again too soon, cutting off their laughter. The negative effect of stepping on your laughs repeatedly is that you condition the audience not to laugh, and I could see that happening with Zig’s presentation.) So in this sense, I was disappointed with Zig’s performance. I’ve heard audio recordings of his live presentations where I felt he did a much better job of connecting with the audience and maintaining a more reasonable pacing.

Here are some of the key points from Zig’s presentation:

  • Motivation is temporary, but so is bathing. If you do both, you’ll live longer and smell better. :)
  • People who succeed understand that their own decisions and attitude make more difference than external, uncontrollable factors like the economy.
  • The more you have of what money won’t buy, the more you’ll get of what money will buy.
  • Commitment to your goals is critical. Some of us are about as committed as “a kamikaze pilot on his 39th mission.” :)
  • Little steps are important. Termites do more damage than earthquakes and hurricanes.
  • Work every day like you do the day before you’re leaving on vacation.
  • “Run your day by the clock, your life with a vision.”
  • A strong relationship gives you the “home court advantage.” Zig noted how it took him 25 years and 17 failed business deals before he achieved any degree of financial success. He was financially struggling for 25 years (from his 20s to his 40s). And yet, his wife kept her faith in him the whole way and never wavered in her support. I could tell Zig was truly grateful to his wife for that long-term support, probably because I feel the same level of support from my wife too.
  • Inner joy improves all areas of your life for the better (physical, mental, social, spiritual, financial, etc.). I agree completely with this point.
  • Success is like an old-fashioned hand water pump. You have to pump it hard for a while, holding the faith that the water will eventually begin to flow even while you’re getting nothing but air. But once the water starts to flow, it takes less energy to keep it flowing. Nice analogy.
  • Zig showed us a photo of himself with a stack of 5000 letters he received from people thanking him for the results they achieved by applying these ideas. He made special note of some of them, including a letter about a prevented suicide.

Zig’s speech included a lot about what to do and how to think to achieve success. I felt his passion come through on these points. My personal interest though is in hearing a lot more about the why. For example, I would have loved to have heard him tell us more about his overall philosophy of life and how he developed it. He made many references to his being a Christian, which I could tell delighted some people in the audience while it simultaneously turned off others. I would have liked to see him address that polarizing affect and to reconcile how he felt his spiritual beliefs contributed to his other results in life. I wanted to get a deeper understanding of Zig’s overall context for living, not merely his physical, mental, and emotional tactics and techniques. Why does a Christian care about sales? How does that fit together in his mind?

I think a reason people don’t experience more success in life isn’t because they don’t have the right tactics and techniques and attitude — it’s that they haven’t yet developed an overall life context where doing these things actually makes sense. I know I wasn’t applying most of the stuff I knew I should be doing until I had developed a strong enough sense of purpose for my life — once I reached that point, I didn’t have to motivate myself. I woke up every morning feeling motivated automatically. So I would have loved to see Zig share his own perspective of how this kind of thing played out in his own life.

Krish Dhanam spoke next. He only talked for about 15 minutes, so there wasn’t a lot of content. He spoke of being an immigrant to the USA from South India and about how grateful he was for the opportunities he found here. He connected well with the audience and had some good humor and personal stories. His content was standard goal-setting material — write down your goals, list the benefits, identify obstacles, create a plan of action, set a deadline, etc. I can’t say I got anything new out of it myself. The content was well-presented and personalized, but the message wasn’t original or all that profound.

Phil Town was next up. He claimed to be an investor that started with $1000 and turned it into $1 million in five years through investing in stocks. He explained some of his investment strategies, based around buying and selling individual stocks instead of relying on mutual fund managers, but the talk essentially turned into a sales pitch for a $995 seminar (supposedly marked down from $6000) and technical analysis software he was offering. A lot of people seemed to be sold on it and started signing up during the break. I felt he was genuinely passionate about the results he had personally achieved in the stock market, and I sensed he genuinely believed he was offering a good value. But I was turned off by the use of the seminar time as a sales pitch, especially because the content he did provide doesn’t really stand on its own as actionable — the “call to action” was to sign up for the other seminar.

Michael Powell, former FCC Chairman and son of Colin Powell, spoke about leadership. One of his points was the importance of developing “confusion endurance,” a tolerance for ambiguity, which he credited to Leonardo da Vinci. He noted the 70/30 rule: “When I have 70% of what I need to act, it’s time to act now.” Waiting for that last 30% rarely changes the outcome, and you will miss opportunities while you wait. This point resonated with me — if you wait for 100% certainty, you’re too late. It would be accurate to say that when I started blogging and podcasting and speaking, I was only about 70% certain about what I was doing. Sometimes ready-fire-aim is superior to ready-aim-fire.

Some of Powell’s other points included:

  • A leader is a true decision-maker, even in the face of ambiguity and uncertainty.
  • Don’t confuse activity with productivity.
  • Take time to unplug, to reflect, and to think. Try one day a week without touching a computer keyboard. Try one hour a day with no interruptions. Try not answering email for the first 90 minutes of your day.
  • Little differences are the determiner of greatness.
  • “If work is not a joyful place for you, you’re in for a crummy life.”
  • A top leader should spend 75% of his/her time on people issues.
  • Earned authority is not the same as apparent authority. Respect and trust are earned, not bestowed.
  • “You might be smart without ever failing, but you will never be wise.”
  • Maintain perspective about what’s really important. Don’t let trivialities knock you off course.

Some of the other Toastmasters I was with weren’t impressed with Powell’s speaking skills. However, I thought they were adequate and overshadowed by his message. I liked what he had to say and could relate to much of it personally. For example, with respect to the last bullet point above, Powell noted that he was once in a jeep accident on the German Autobahn. He broke many bones, shattered his pelvis, and was told he’d never walk again nor have children. But through a year of difficult recovery he did walk again. He commented that one of his favorite things to do was to walk his boys around the block. He said he keeps copies of his X-rays in a drawer, and when someone complains to him about how hard something is, he pulls out the X-rays and says, “That’s not hard. This is hard!”

I’ve had personal experiences that were also very hard for me to overcome, and part of their long-term value is that they help me maintain perspective, especially with respect to courage and fear. If I ever feel the tendency to give into fear, I say to myself, “This doesn’t take courage. Now that took courage!” That’s one of the reasons I’m not afraid to do public speaking or to share a lot of myself on the internet in ways that many people would consider risky. Compared to other challenges I had to overcome, these things are a breeze. There was a time in my life when I would have been grateful to experience the deepest negative troughs of my life as it is today because they still would have been higher than the highest peaks I used to experience.

So even if you’re in a situation that today seems very negative to you, realize that in the future, it may become a source of great personal power for you.

Joe Montana, former quarterback of the San Francisco 49ers, came on next. He stumbled a little in the beginning with some humor that didn’t quite work, but he quickly found his stride. I really enjoyed his presentation because he had a strong central focus to his speech, and all his points and stories supported it. His main theme was that individual success is the key to team success. He disagreed with the statement, “There’s no I in team.” He credited the 49ers’ success to lots of preparation and hard work. For example, he noted that during practice, when wide receiver Jerry Rice would score a touchdown, he would always run the whole distance to the end zone, whether it was 9 yards or 90 yards. Most people in practice would only run out about 10 or 20 yards before turning around. Joe said this made the practice sessions longer, but Rice’s commitment soon became infectious, and he raised the bar for everyone else, so soon their other wide receivers were doing the same thing. Joe went on to tell stories of how this preparation eventually paid off in some of their actual games.

Joe explained how personal effort and preparation build trust for the whole team. When you see that a team member is putting in so much effort, you trust that they’ll be there for you. Joe could trust that his blockers would be doing their best. He could trust that his receivers would be where they were supposed to be. I recognized this as being similar to Stephen Covey’s conviction that “private victory precedes public victory.” Joe said that you don’t have to like your teammates, but you do have to trust them. So trust is built on top of personal commitment and effort. When you see one of your teammates working hard and doing their best, it makes you want to do better as well. I also listened to what Joe didn’t say. He didn’t say that teamwork and trust are built on liking each other or on getting to know each other really well or on embracing diversity. Loyalty to the team comes about when individuals are doing their own personal best. So there is an I in team afterall.

Real estate guru Tom Hopkins spoke about sales techniques, particularly how to lead a prospect all the way to the closing of a sale. One technique involved using different words that people are more comfortable hearing and which reduce sales resistance. For example, you would say total investment or total amount instead of price, intitial investment instead of down payment, own instead of buy, approve instead of sign, paperwork instead of contract. Another technique was to use leading questions to get the person to say “yes” a lot, so they’ll eventually say “yes” when you ask for the sale.

Personally his message didn’t resonate with me at all. I’ve read a lot about sales techniques, and while I found them interesting at one time, after a while they began to turn my stomach. I find this type of selling too manipulative and insincere. While I understand it can be effective at closing sales, these techniques have the opposite effect on me, probably because I see right through them and feel manipulated. When someone tries these low-level tactics on me, I have to restrain myself from the overwhelming urge to poke them in the eye. (What can I say? I was raised on The Three Stooges.)

My perspective is that if you have to use tactics that involve manipulating the other person in such a manner, then perhaps something is wrong further up the chain. I understand that a lot of people will disagree with me on this, and that’s OK. It’s due to my own personal bias. My bias is that I dislike viewing people as Pavlovian stimulus-response creatures and prefer to treat them more as conscious and aware spirits. I find that I am much happier relating to people as conscious, intelligent beings (even when they seem to behave otherwise) than when I dehumanize them with labels like “prospect.” Even when I do fall into the pattern of using such labels (for lack of a better way to communicate), I do my best to try to see people as conscious beings, not as numbers or dollar signs.

There was a time in my life where I would have loved Tom Hopkins’ presentation and material, and I would have eagerly run out to apply it. But even back then I’d have been left with an uneasy, incongruent feeling as I did so… where my brain would have said, “this is great — let’s do it!” while my intuition was saying, with a calmer, quieter voice, “no, this just isn’t right.”

Peter Lowe did a highly interactive presentation, covering much of the same material I’ve seen elsewhere, particularly from Tony Robbins. How much longer are speakers going to use the “point your arm to the side and turn as far as you can, then visualize yourself going much farther, then turn again” routine? Peter talked about the importance of physiology, which he demonstrated with a high level of energy on stage, so much in fact that his face was drenched in sweat an hour later.

At one point Peter brought an audience volunteer up on stage to do a board break. And having done about a dozen different types of board breaks myself in Tae Kwon Do (along with my wife, brother, and sister), I can say that the palm break he chose is probably the easiest (and the least painful) of the hand techniques. Perhaps due to my own personal background, this part of the presentation seem a bit phony and unnecessarily flashy to me. Peter used the analogy of the board break to emphasize the importance of seeing beyond obstacles. That’s a good message, but you don’t need to visualize going through a board to break it with the heal of your palm — you just need to hit it hard in the center.

Peter had the most interactive presentation of anyone, but I didn’t sense a strong emotional connection with the audience from him. His well-organized and structured presentation covered physical, mental, and spiritual success and congruency, but I just wasn’t resonating with his message. I didn’t feel he went deep enough within himself to pull up and share why these ideas were important and what they meant to him personally. He connected with heads but not hearts.

James Smith spoke on real estate investing. This was my least favorite presentation of all, another disguised sales pitch for a real estate seminar that didn’t provide actionable value capable of standing on its own. It felt utterly soulless to me, and the presentation sounded rehearsed and canned, like I was just watching someone go through the motions of what to do and say on stage without being aware that he was surrounded by thousands of fellow human beings. One of my Toastmasters friends came away with a similar impression.

Next up was entertainer Jerry Lewis, who has raised over $2 billion for muscular dystrophy research. Jerry didn’t give a speech but rather an entirely humorous presentation full of jokes and personal stories. I was a big fan of Jerry Lewis movies when I was a kid, so this was a delight for me. He had us all laughing hysterically, and one of his video clips was so funny I was laughing for about 3 minutes straight. In fact, it still makes me laugh just to think about it. I think Jerry had the best audience connection of any speaker that day. Humor is a powerful way to connect with an audience. Even though he didn’t give a speech per se, his presentation was one of my favorites. He helped us not to take ourselves so seriously.

Rudolf Giuliani, former Mayor of New York City, was the final speaker. I’m skeptical of anyone who speaks and writes about leadership because I usually find such material lacking in substance, so I went into this with a bit of a negative bias. But this speech was actually my favorite one of the day. Great humor, excellent personal stories, and a strong audience connection. He gave one of the best organized presentations — the organization of the speech was obvious from the beginning, which made it easy to follow.

His six principles of leadership were:

  1. Know what you stand for.
  2. Be an optimist, not a pessimist. People follow hope.
  3. You have to have courage, which means having fear and making the right decision anyway.
  4. Relentless preparation.
  5. Teamwork. Build a balanced team by recruiting others who possess the strengths you lack.
  6. Communicate.

Whew!

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19 Responses to “Motivational Seminar Recap”

  1. Brandon Says:

    “I’ve read a lot about sales techniques, and while I found them interesting at one time, after a while they began to turn my stomach.”

    Interesting to see you write this. Do you ever think back on what you did at Dexterity to sell games and think “Did I compromise my integrity for sales?”. Have you ever considered undoing certain things that you did in the past at Dexterity.com that you no longer consider legitimate?

    For example, on some of the individual game pages, you’ve got a line that reads “FREE Bonuses For Ordering ‘this game’ by Midnight on Friday, September 30, 2005″. And the date part automatically updates itself every week with with the date of that coming friday. Now while there’s nothing untrue about that statement, it is a bit misleading. As most rational folks would think that you wouldn’t get the bonuses if you waited until after friday, when actually, you’d get the bonuses anytime. This seems a bit manipulative to me. It puts a little more pressure on a customer to squeeze a sale out of anyone who might be on the borderline. Again, there’s nothing technically wrong or crooked about what’s happening, but it does kind of assume that a customer isn’t smart enough to know any better. If I was one of your customers, I think I’d give the eye-poke a bit of consideration ;)

    Are there remnants of old sales experiments still at work on Dexterity, that you’d have to reconsider given your new perspective on sales?

  2. Steve Pavlina Says:

    @Brandon: I agree with you. For quite a while I tried to reshape Dexterity into something new. But from the ground up, the whole business was infused with a different level of thinking than I’m at right now — it represents the dreams and goals of a 22-year old. At the level of thinking I was at when I took each step, I generally felt good about it. I couldn’t see a way to transform it completely though, so I opted to follow the process I wrote about in “The Courage to Live Consciously,” which was to start down the new path while simultaneously maintaining the old path, living with the incongruency of that for a while and focusing on the intention to embrace the new path and let go of the old one. There’s still a part of the past within me, the part that enjoys the games business and what I did with it and who wants to hold onto it. But that part gets smaller each day, and when it reaches a certain vanishing point, I’ll let it go altogether.

    Partly I treated this transition as a series of milestones. I’ve already pulled out of development, stopped publishing new games, and stopped doing new marketing. But on a certain level, I feel that continuing to sell these games as I do now is still doing some good. There’s too much incongruency to correct the whole thing though because part of the incongruency is due to my own mixed feelings over selling games at all. Each individual product has its own mix of incongruency too — is it fun, educational, or just a waste of time? And if there’s some good in the games, is it good or bad to push the limits to sell them?

    So I didn’t feel I could fix that model. I found the model itself to be the wrong one for me.

  3. Claude Says:

    Now I know what makes me read you: I loved the answer you gave to Brandon. You know what? It sounded like Scobleizer of Microsoft saying in his blog to a reader
    ” Yes, you’re right, we used a lousy code name.” To gain credibility there is nothing like recognizing that we are screwing up and telling people that will be corrected.

  4. Daniel Ehlke Says:

    Hm, no female speakers?
    I would like to know more about male/female ratio in this business.
    Is it male-dominated?

    How many women were in the audience?

  5. Steve Pavlina Says:

    @Daniel: I didn’t note it at the time, but the audience probably had more women than men — at least that was the case in the section where I was sitting.

    At a seminar I attended last year where Dr. Wayne Dyer spoke, the audience was 95% female, and most of the speakers were female too. So it varies.

    I think there are certain topics which draw more male speakers and others where there are more female speakers. So there are both male-dominated and female-dominated patches of the industry. Overall it seems to be a more even playing field than software development or the computer gaming industry. I certainly gained a lot more female friends after switching careers. It was like graduating from an all boys school and switching to a co-ed one.

  6. Steve Pavlina Says:

    @Brandon: Today I removed all instances of the “order this game by DATE” text from Dexterity.com. If you ever see me using it again, please give me another eye poke. ;)

  7. Scott Young Says:

    Steve - Funny you mention your whole debate about games being beneficial or a waste of time, because I had started a long debate over at indiegamer.com about that very issue over at indiegamers.

    I think with increasing technology the medium has a lot more potential to help people in areas other areas of life than it used to. But because people buy a game to be entertained, every other benefit is generally a side-effect, you can’t be completely congruent with providing maximal value and at the same time having a hit product. You have to make compromises.

    I suppose that this could also be true with personal development (nobody wants to hear that growth takes work, so there will be a lot of people looking for band-aids to the problems in their lives), so you sometimes have to either accept that your position within a medium may provide the most value to people but at the potential cost of marketting.

    You wrote an article earlier about distinguishing between medium and message. I know you chose the path to provide value through direct speaking and writing, but do you still feel that there is a potential for good in games, or is it simply fading away as your perspective changes?

    I love your blog, and I feel I can bring value with games, but I always feel it a bit more discouraging when I see you eloquently worded personal mission and your own departure from the games industry. I love making games and I can think of various ways to use them to bring value, but I can’t help feeling discouraged when there is so much negative influence being directed towards games in general.

  8. Steve Pavlina Says:

    @Scott: It’s a tough issue, no doubt. For years I felt there was a lot of potential in games — I still do in fact — and I aimed to move in that direction. I favored more cerebral thinking games that would challenge people mentally (i.e. more complex logic puzzle games instead of match-3 games).

    But ultimately I found my progress in this arena to be too slow, and it was holding back my own growth. It felt like I was moving through quicksand, trying to turn an elephant around. Partly the technology itself was a problem. I can make a blog post in a matter of minutes, and the value gets delivered to thousands of real human beings in a matter of hours. But a game takes far more time and effort, and ultimately it probably delivers a lot less value. If you add up the total time I’ve spent working on this site over the past year, it might have been enough to develop and release a couple games instead. Could I have delivered at least as much value through the medium of those games? I think it’s possible but unlikely (for me that is). And in order to do that, I would have been holding myself back a great deal — I certainly experience a lot more personal growth running this site than I ever did working full time on games.

    Perhaps the game that I felt was the best step in the right direction I wanted to go was Ultima IV. I still feel there is great potential in the medium of games — it’s ultimately a richer media than text or speech. But at present I don’t think it’s quite flexible enough in terms of the tools and development times.

    I know that leaving the gaming industry was the right decision for me. I don’t even need the benefit of hindsight to know that it was the correct call — I knew it was right for me at the time I made the decision.

    Maybe down the road somewhere, I’ll have the resources to fund some experimental software products that are both entertaining and growth-oriented. The best speakers are great entertainers too. So I know that entertainment doesn’t conflict with helping people grow — in fact, it’s a wonderful complement. People grow more when the message affects their heart and not just their head.

  9. Scott Young Says:

    Thanks for that.

    You are so good at writing your own mission and your self-belief in it (no doubt a product of your own growth) that it almost appears as if there are no other professions that are optimal, and perhaps even legitimate. I’m sure for you, that is the case.

    But I like to know that there are perhaps more paths to the similar objectives, that are better suited for different people in different situations. Right now, I think the best route for me is to do that through games.

    Good luck to you!

  10. Johann Sigurdsson Says:

    Steve, Loved the review of the speakers, although I have never seen Zig speak live I had seen a live engagement by him on Video (actually he spoke at Toastmasters Annual Meeting) and found that he was going in too many directions without much details.

    On Tom Hopkins sales questions I agree with you it sounds a bit creepy, but as I have been in sales for years as a business owner I have to agree with Mr. Hopkins that question based selling works best not as a closing technique like he uses it, but as way to really find out what the customer requires and thus match your product too the customers needs Nothing creepy about that.

    Finally just out of curiosity how much did this seminar cost?

    Keep up the good work.

    Johann

  11. Steve Pavlina Says:

    @Johann: Seats at this seminar were sold in blocks of 10, and each block was $49. So it was less than $5 per person. I went with a friend whose company bought a block of seats and had extra tickets, so for me and a few other people I went with, it was actually free.

    I think the low cost of the event explains why a couple of the presentations were sales pitches for more expensive seminars. In that sense it was a bit of a feeder seminar, but there was still an abundance of great stand-alone content. Also, some speakers sold products there. Zig Ziglar offered product bundles ranging from $149 to $649. Speakers commonly earn more from BOR (back of room) sales than they do from speaking fees.

  12. Manuel Says:

    Steve,

    What is it about a game like Ultima IV, that makes it able to express an idea or a feeling, that writing cannot?

  13. Dmitry Chestnykh Says:

    “Initially I could tell some of us found it hard to get out of “speaker evaluation” mode and to just listen to the content.”

    This happens with most professions — before I began sound recording/mastering “career”, I didn’t notice how the song sound. Then, when I began making records myself, my brain switch to technical mode and I just couldn’t stop noticing all the technical sides of songs. Now when I dropped, it comes back to me — I listen to songs, not those tracks with guitars, drums, basses, etc :)

  14. Steve Pavlina Says:

    @Manuel: Different media like games, movies, or books all have different levels of expressiveness. The advantage of games is that they are interactive, while movies and books are not. You can control your game character and make your own decisions. With a really good book, you can relate to the characters, but you cannot control what they do. You cannot change the outcome of Hamlet by reading it. With a game you can.

    And because of that higher degree of immersiveness, I think games have the greatest potential expressiveness of any digital media.

  15. Jim Buck Says:

    What kind of game, where Ultima IV was in the right direction, were you wanting to take games given the right tools existed?

    As a complete aside, but related to your postings on gambling, what poker book(s) would you recommend for someone that only plays once in a great, great while but with business execs that are poker sharks? I’d like to be able to hold my own with them, for once. :)

  16. Phil Town Says:

    Actually, Steve, there are ways you can take action on the information I presented. I have a blog (www.philtown.typepad.com) where I mentor individual investors for free. There’s plenty of reading there, enough that a beginning investor could start learning and eventually start investing using free tools. The free tools take a lot longer than the software I talk about, but you can get the same results either way. It just depends on how much time you have to devote to the research. It’s like farming with a stick vs. farming with a tractor. Tractors aren’t cheap, but they get the job done faster.

    Stop by the blog, take a look. Thanks for your feedback.

  17. Steve Pavlina Says:

    @Phil: That’s great to know. I really enjoyed the information you did provide, and it was obvious that the audience was excited about your ideas. Your passion and enthusiasm were contagious. I took 10 pages of notes during the seminar, and 3 of them were from your presentation — more than for any other speaker. I especially liked when you brought the women up on stage and had them go through the example investment scenario with you.

    I’ve subscribed to your blog feed, so I’ll definitely check it out.

  18. Mike W. Says:

    I was wondering if you could expand on one of the Zig Ziglar bullet points:
    “The more you have of what money won’t buy, the more you’ll get of what money will buy.”

    What is he referring to? How does having what money won’t buy lead to getting more of what money will buy?

  19. Steve Pavlina Says:

    @Mike: The context for that line was that Zig was talking about things that money can’t buy like joy and inner peace vs. things that money can buy like cars and houses. So he’s referring to the idea that being in the right internal state will lead you to get more of the external things you want. A new car won’t make you happy per se, but if you’re happy to begin with, it’s easier to take the actions that will get you the new car vs. if you’re depressed. A positive attitude can help you produce positive external results more easily than a negative attitude can.

    This is isn’t an original idea — I’ve heard it in many different forms — but I do think it’s a profound one. Tony Robbins deals with these issues a lot as well. He refers to it as the difference between “achieving to be happy” vs. “happily achieving.” The latter is more effective than the former.

    I’ve applied this concept in my own life and found it to be spot on, although it took me many years before I felt I’d really mastered it. I am in a wonderful place in my life right now, where each day I work from a state of inner peace and a pervasive sense of joy, regardless of what my external results are at any particular time. I don’t need to accomplish anything to achieve these states — I work from these states, not for them or towards them. For me this has become my default permanent state of being.

    Imagine waking up every morning feeling wonderful for no particular reason and having that feeling last all day, regardless of what you do that day — every day. This is the state of being from which you will do your best thinking and take your best actions to manifest the other things you want.

    The material I found most helpful in reaching this goal came from Dr. Deepak Chopra and Dr. Wayne Dyer, especially Chopra’s Seven Spiritual Laws of Success and Dyer’s The Power of Intention. The main thing for me was to keep focusing on the intention to raise my consciousness to a state of peace and joy. After several months of holding this intention, I found myself locked into these states by default.



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