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		<title>By: Vitaly Friedman</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/08/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-9465</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitaly Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article and interesting approach, thank you! However I am not rather sure how exactly I can win an argument without bringing any arguments into the discussion. I mean I can be "reflexive" as you wrote, Steve, but it isn't actually a discussion then - it is just a way to shut up the person I am trying to have a discussion with, isn't it?

With warm greetings from Saarbruecken, Saarland, Germany,
Vitaly Friedman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article and interesting approach, thank you! However I am not rather sure how exactly I can win an argument without bringing any arguments into the discussion. I mean I can be &#8220;reflexive&#8221; as you wrote, Steve, but it isn&#8217;t actually a discussion then - it is just a way to shut up the person I am trying to have a discussion with, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>With warm greetings from Saarbruecken, Saarland, Germany,<br />
Vitaly Friedman</p>
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		<title>By: Nina</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/08/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-9345</link>
		<dc:creator>Nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 09:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wholeheartedly agree with the advice given in the article, but I am having problems controlling my own emotions, and sense of incompetence and/or helplessness, so with that I am over sensitive.

I have been told many times that I take things too personally, but I can't let go of it completely, because I have been proved right as many times as I was wrong.  Descerning between criticsm/comment and personal affront is the difficult thing!

Honestly I believe that I am a very intuitive person and many times when people think they have gotten away with passing "personalised" remarks, I catch them on it, and normally they deny, but many times we talk it out and everything comes out into the open...

I have two questions.  How do I handle the weakness of my own? And how do I actually get results from aggressive players, who are used to steam rolling the cllient into giving up?  (Mirroring may work in the immediate, but over the phone to someone who has no intention of meeting their deadlines can become a hopeless situation for the client)

Great Article!  

Thank you,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholeheartedly agree with the advice given in the article, but I am having problems controlling my own emotions, and sense of incompetence and/or helplessness, so with that I am over sensitive.</p>
<p>I have been told many times that I take things too personally, but I can&#8217;t let go of it completely, because I have been proved right as many times as I was wrong.  Descerning between criticsm/comment and personal affront is the difficult thing!</p>
<p>Honestly I believe that I am a very intuitive person and many times when people think they have gotten away with passing &#8220;personalised&#8221; remarks, I catch them on it, and normally they deny, but many times we talk it out and everything comes out into the open&#8230;</p>
<p>I have two questions.  How do I handle the weakness of my own? And how do I actually get results from aggressive players, who are used to steam rolling the cllient into giving up?  (Mirroring may work in the immediate, but over the phone to someone who has no intention of meeting their deadlines can become a hopeless situation for the client)</p>
<p>Great Article!  </p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
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		<title>By: TheRedFox</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheRedFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 05:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About allergy:

I used to have several ones and they all moved the way of the dodo by being treated with NAET (see http://www.naet.com/).

It's really incredible how well it works.

Talking about peanut allergy, a relative who went in shock just by smelling them is now completely OK.

Of course, this is not helping the drug vendors :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About allergy:</p>
<p>I used to have several ones and they all moved the way of the dodo by being treated with NAET (see <a href="http://www.naet.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.naet.com/</a>).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really incredible how well it works.</p>
<p>Talking about peanut allergy, a relative who went in shock just by smelling them is now completely OK.</p>
<p>Of course, this is not helping the drug vendors <img src='http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 07:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This technique could also be known as using "empowering questions", depending on the level that they are used at.  "Mirroring" is a very basic [and irritating IMO] form of questioning that will generally work if the person you're mirroring is easily deflected and doesn't have the discipline to push for a result/answer to their problem (i.e. you're having a chat rather than solving a problem).  It's why counsellors have a bad rap.

Empowering questions require you to have insight into what the real problem / driving force is in the other person.  A simple one is "Why do you need to do that?", and many more are above.  One of the key things about an EQ is that it is specific to a situation, so if you get it wrong, it will be an irrelevant question : "why do you want to drink?" - obvious answer: "to get drunk".

I'd like to add a note of warning about this technique (one of the basics of counselling that many [counsellors] do not realise).  It is easy to open a wound, but unless you have the insight and truth to be able to help heal, you will do more harm than good.  
Catharsis can be helpful in some situations, but often it is just a pressure release and allow opening for healing the underlying issues.  Chatharsis in itself is not a goal, and excessive catharsis should start warning bells.

Oh, I re-read my comment and want to add one more think (another counselling basic): you must have permission to ask an empowering question.  They can be very powerful, and can receive a very powerful response.  An expert in this technique (NOT me), can reduce people to tears within minutes or seconds.

So, don't be arrogant, listen, and above all, question and evaluate yourself (debrief) after every "session".  If you want to help, you have to help yourself improve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This technique could also be known as using &#8220;empowering questions&#8221;, depending on the level that they are used at.  &#8220;Mirroring&#8221; is a very basic [and irritating IMO] form of questioning that will generally work if the person you&#8217;re mirroring is easily deflected and doesn&#8217;t have the discipline to push for a result/answer to their problem (i.e. you&#8217;re having a chat rather than solving a problem).  It&#8217;s why counsellors have a bad rap.</p>
<p>Empowering questions require you to have insight into what the real problem / driving force is in the other person.  A simple one is &#8220;Why do you need to do that?&#8221;, and many more are above.  One of the key things about an EQ is that it is specific to a situation, so if you get it wrong, it will be an irrelevant question : &#8220;why do you want to drink?&#8221; - obvious answer: &#8220;to get drunk&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to add a note of warning about this technique (one of the basics of counselling that many [counsellors] do not realise).  It is easy to open a wound, but unless you have the insight and truth to be able to help heal, you will do more harm than good.<br />
Catharsis can be helpful in some situations, but often it is just a pressure release and allow opening for healing the underlying issues.  Chatharsis in itself is not a goal, and excessive catharsis should start warning bells.</p>
<p>Oh, I re-read my comment and want to add one more think (another counselling basic): you must have permission to ask an empowering question.  They can be very powerful, and can receive a very powerful response.  An expert in this technique (NOT me), can reduce people to tears within minutes or seconds.</p>
<p>So, don&#8217;t be arrogant, listen, and above all, question and evaluate yourself (debrief) after every &#8220;session&#8221;.  If you want to help, you have to help yourself improve.</p>
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		<title>By: kathaclysm</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/08/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-9273</link>
		<dc:creator>kathaclysm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 20:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, definitely sounds like some family members I've dealt with in my life.  I can clearly see that it's not for arguments between two level-headed people with a well defined point-counter point format (this isn't for debate club).  This is for that person who throws constant put downs, irrational reasons, and some emotional force into the mix...someone who will not hear what you have to say anyways.  

This is prime for arguments that begin with the word "You" 

"You don't appreciate what I do around here," 
"You don't trust me with..."
"You didn't tell me that..."
"Why do you always..."
"You're not..."

These are arguments where even admitting to be at fault doesn't always end the yelling, blaming, or stonewalling.

Therapists have given similar advice.  By repeating what the other person has said, you're making it clear that you are listening to them, no matter how insane they seem at the time, and you are making them listen to themselves.  I've had arguments where I've said "Listen to yourself!  How can you say that? You don't know what you're saying!"  when the more appropriate response would have been "you mean to tell me that ...." and repeat what they've said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, definitely sounds like some family members I&#8217;ve dealt with in my life.  I can clearly see that it&#8217;s not for arguments between two level-headed people with a well defined point-counter point format (this isn&#8217;t for debate club).  This is for that person who throws constant put downs, irrational reasons, and some emotional force into the mix&#8230;someone who will not hear what you have to say anyways.  </p>
<p>This is prime for arguments that begin with the word &#8220;You&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;You don&#8217;t appreciate what I do around here,&#8221;<br />
&#8220;You don&#8217;t trust me with&#8230;&#8221;<br />
&#8220;You didn&#8217;t tell me that&#8230;&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Why do you always&#8230;&#8221;<br />
&#8220;You&#8217;re not&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>These are arguments where even admitting to be at fault doesn&#8217;t always end the yelling, blaming, or stonewalling.</p>
<p>Therapists have given similar advice.  By repeating what the other person has said, you&#8217;re making it clear that you are listening to them, no matter how insane they seem at the time, and you are making them listen to themselves.  I&#8217;ve had arguments where I&#8217;ve said &#8220;Listen to yourself!  How can you say that? You don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re saying!&#8221;  when the more appropriate response would have been &#8220;you mean to tell me that &#8230;.&#8221; and repeat what they&#8217;ve said.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkAngel</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/08/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-9272</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkAngel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even for the purpose of dealing with angry relatives, I am having a great deal of difficulty understanding how this "technique" is anything other than a flat refusal to address the issues at hand.  I have dealt with unreasonable people (as likely we all have), some of them being relatives, and I've even been on the receiving end of tactics such as those described here (which usually I include in "dealing with unreasonable people").  Rather than trying to deflect arguments, I've found it far more useful to simply rely on facts, along with the principles of logical argument.  I agree that it is essential not to let oneself become angry, but I think it is just as essential to view the argument AS an argument (which, by the way, is defined as the process of reaching a conclusion).  Arguments need not necessarily be emotional affairs, despite the fact that they can sometimes be.  In the case of the angry relatives (and most others), calmly providing provable and relevant facts tends to defuse anger more effectively (in my experience) than any form of deflection.  My outlook is not that I am necessarily "right" or that they are necessarily "wrong", but rather that I seek the truth at the heart of the issue.  My purpose is to learn what that truth is.  Even if both my beliefs and those of the angry relative (or other person) do not ultimately change, usually I leave with at least the respect of both the one I was arguing with and any who were listening.

The main problem I have with the tactics described in this article is that they fail to address whatever issue(s) the other person is having such strong feelings about, focusing instead on how to deflect those issues back at the person (i.e. "becomming a mirror").  I think a better approach would be to listen, analyze, and understand, and move from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even for the purpose of dealing with angry relatives, I am having a great deal of difficulty understanding how this &#8220;technique&#8221; is anything other than a flat refusal to address the issues at hand.  I have dealt with unreasonable people (as likely we all have), some of them being relatives, and I&#8217;ve even been on the receiving end of tactics such as those described here (which usually I include in &#8220;dealing with unreasonable people&#8221;).  Rather than trying to deflect arguments, I&#8217;ve found it far more useful to simply rely on facts, along with the principles of logical argument.  I agree that it is essential not to let oneself become angry, but I think it is just as essential to view the argument AS an argument (which, by the way, is defined as the process of reaching a conclusion).  Arguments need not necessarily be emotional affairs, despite the fact that they can sometimes be.  In the case of the angry relatives (and most others), calmly providing provable and relevant facts tends to defuse anger more effectively (in my experience) than any form of deflection.  My outlook is not that I am necessarily &#8220;right&#8221; or that they are necessarily &#8220;wrong&#8221;, but rather that I seek the truth at the heart of the issue.  My purpose is to learn what that truth is.  Even if both my beliefs and those of the angry relative (or other person) do not ultimately change, usually I leave with at least the respect of both the one I was arguing with and any who were listening.</p>
<p>The main problem I have with the tactics described in this article is that they fail to address whatever issue(s) the other person is having such strong feelings about, focusing instead on how to deflect those issues back at the person (i.e. &#8220;becomming a mirror&#8221;).  I think a better approach would be to listen, analyze, and understand, and move from there.</p>
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		<title>By: Quana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

I read some of the above comments with great interest (didn't have time to read all of them).  I practice NVC (nonviolent communiation, Rosenberg)  as oft as I am able.  For me, the practice above is something that would have been a first step to a change in consciousness.  This "tactic," if you will, would have been very helpful for me while I was making the shift in philosophy/consciousness to NVC.  The whole "I am right and you are wrong" paradigm is difficult to ditch and finding away to let go of it is very liberating.  In doing so, I think one is not allowing oneself to be held hostage by another's anger.  His method does not signify anywhere close to an endpoint of where I want to be energetically, but it's a step in the "more connected" direction.  I am feeling thankful for this article regardless of the fact that it's far from my ideal for communication.  There always has to be some kind of starting point when one travels down a new road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>I read some of the above comments with great interest (didn&#8217;t have time to read all of them).  I practice NVC (nonviolent communiation, Rosenberg)  as oft as I am able.  For me, the practice above is something that would have been a first step to a change in consciousness.  This &#8220;tactic,&#8221; if you will, would have been very helpful for me while I was making the shift in philosophy/consciousness to NVC.  The whole &#8220;I am right and you are wrong&#8221; paradigm is difficult to ditch and finding away to let go of it is very liberating.  In doing so, I think one is not allowing oneself to be held hostage by another&#8217;s anger.  His method does not signify anywhere close to an endpoint of where I want to be energetically, but it&#8217;s a step in the &#8220;more connected&#8221; direction.  I am feeling thankful for this article regardless of the fact that it&#8217;s far from my ideal for communication.  There always has to be some kind of starting point when one travels down a new road.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pavlina</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/08/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-9268</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pavlina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I added some extra text to the intro paragraph to help make it clear that this is a follow-up to a previous post.  Hopefully that will help prevent people from erroneously thinking it's a post about how to out-debate their co-workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I added some extra text to the intro paragraph to help make it clear that this is a follow-up to a previous post.  Hopefully that will help prevent people from erroneously thinking it&#8217;s a post about how to out-debate their co-workers.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pavlina</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/08/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-9267</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pavlina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I figured out the cause of the confusion.

This article was linked on digg.com and received hundreds of diggs there, which consequently sent some new traffic to this page (over 10,000 extra visitors and counting).  However, it wasn't clear to many of those visitors that this was a follow-up article to a previous post (as noted in the first sentence of the article).  It's clear from some of the comments that many people didn't read the first part of the article, which is pretty important to understand the context of this article.  If you read this article on its own without the context of the first article, I can see how it might convey a very different meaning.

For clarity... this article was only written within the context of dealing with difficult relatives (as explained in detail in the original article).  The concepts were never intended to be extended outside that context, such as to having arguments with co-workers or proving who has the best facts.

Perhaps I'll add some extra text to the opening of the article to help clarify that it's a follow-up and not a stand-alone post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I figured out the cause of the confusion.</p>
<p>This article was linked on digg.com and received hundreds of diggs there, which consequently sent some new traffic to this page (over 10,000 extra visitors and counting).  However, it wasn&#8217;t clear to many of those visitors that this was a follow-up article to a previous post (as noted in the first sentence of the article).  It&#8217;s clear from some of the comments that many people didn&#8217;t read the first part of the article, which is pretty important to understand the context of this article.  If you read this article on its own without the context of the first article, I can see how it might convey a very different meaning.</p>
<p>For clarity&#8230; this article was only written within the context of dealing with difficult relatives (as explained in detail in the original article).  The concepts were never intended to be extended outside that context, such as to having arguments with co-workers or proving who has the best facts.</p>
<p>Perhaps I&#8217;ll add some extra text to the opening of the article to help clarify that it&#8217;s a follow-up and not a stand-alone post.</p>
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		<title>By: bodq</title>
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		<dc:creator>bodq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!

Please forgive me my incompetent English.

How would you deal with a type of person sometiems called 'energy vampire'? The characteristic behaviuor of such people is, in brief, whining. They often engage you into a kind of consolidation, with a phrases like "I'm bad. I'm a broke. I'm loser. I feel terrible. I will fail." Then, when you try to comfort them, they develop the frustration, and whatever you say they find yet another negative point. This may be targeted on a person's own self, or an event, or whaterver else they'd imagine.

The problem with this is that you spend your own energy on giving relief, but don't get anything valuable in return. I see three possible ways out of this situation:
 - just terminate the relationship altogeather
 - learn to give what they want without any harm for yourself
 - learn to quickly (or permanently) shift the person's view to positive.

What would you advise?

Thank you,
please cc: the reply to email if you're interested in the topic,
Bohdan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!</p>
<p>Please forgive me my incompetent English.</p>
<p>How would you deal with a type of person sometiems called &#8216;energy vampire&#8217;? The characteristic behaviuor of such people is, in brief, whining. They often engage you into a kind of consolidation, with a phrases like &#8220;I&#8217;m bad. I&#8217;m a broke. I&#8217;m loser. I feel terrible. I will fail.&#8221; Then, when you try to comfort them, they develop the frustration, and whatever you say they find yet another negative point. This may be targeted on a person&#8217;s own self, or an event, or whaterver else they&#8217;d imagine.</p>
<p>The problem with this is that you spend your own energy on giving relief, but don&#8217;t get anything valuable in return. I see three possible ways out of this situation:<br />
 - just terminate the relationship altogeather<br />
 - learn to give what they want without any harm for yourself<br />
 - learn to quickly (or permanently) shift the person&#8217;s view to positive.</p>
<p>What would you advise?</p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
please cc: the reply to email if you&#8217;re interested in the topic,<br />
Bohdan.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn't a way of winning an argument.  It's a way of refusing to argue.  The whole thing is one gigantic logical fallacy.  And anyone who has done any genuine argumentation knows that logical fallacies are two-edged swords.  When used like they are here, they're a list of inordinately effective rhetorical cheap shots.  But if you're dealing with someone who knows what they're doing, they'll recognize that you're refusing to deal with what they say.  This "method" is the logical equivalent of "I know you are but what am I?"  It's juvenile, irrational, frustrating, and counterproductive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t a way of winning an argument.  It&#8217;s a way of refusing to argue.  The whole thing is one gigantic logical fallacy.  And anyone who has done any genuine argumentation knows that logical fallacies are two-edged swords.  When used like they are here, they&#8217;re a list of inordinately effective rhetorical cheap shots.  But if you&#8217;re dealing with someone who knows what they&#8217;re doing, they&#8217;ll recognize that you&#8217;re refusing to deal with what they say.  This &#8220;method&#8221; is the logical equivalent of &#8220;I know you are but what am I?&#8221;  It&#8217;s juvenile, irrational, frustrating, and counterproductive.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Testosteroni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Testosteroni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone that would use these passive-aggressive tactics is showing no respect for either the argument or its advocate.  You might deflect the argument talking like this, but everyone within earshot will think you're dishonest and a weasel for doing so.  You're not actually raising anyone's awareness - as you say - by using these lines. What you WILL do is piss them off, and rightly so.  

The best and most honorable way to avoid getting sucked into an argument is to just flat-out say, "I can see we're both passionate about our opinions on this subject.  Maybe it's best we just agree to disagree."  I guarantee, this will immediately end your unpleasant conversation and is much more satisfying than using obfuscatory language to frustrate your opponent.

By the way, if your intent is to burn the communications bridge, then you might as well blow up the dam along with it.  Try this -- no matter what someone is telling you, just respond by saying, "I know you say that now, but you'll come around eventually.....sooner or later, they all come around."  Don't forget to smirk and nod knowingly.  Then sit back and watch the fireworks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone that would use these passive-aggressive tactics is showing no respect for either the argument or its advocate.  You might deflect the argument talking like this, but everyone within earshot will think you&#8217;re dishonest and a weasel for doing so.  You&#8217;re not actually raising anyone&#8217;s awareness - as you say - by using these lines. What you WILL do is piss them off, and rightly so.  </p>
<p>The best and most honorable way to avoid getting sucked into an argument is to just flat-out say, &#8220;I can see we&#8217;re both passionate about our opinions on this subject.  Maybe it&#8217;s best we just agree to disagree.&#8221;  I guarantee, this will immediately end your unpleasant conversation and is much more satisfying than using obfuscatory language to frustrate your opponent.</p>
<p>By the way, if your intent is to burn the communications bridge, then you might as well blow up the dam along with it.  Try this &#8212; no matter what someone is telling you, just respond by saying, &#8220;I know you say that now, but you&#8217;ll come around eventually&#8230;..sooner or later, they all come around.&#8221;  Don&#8217;t forget to smirk and nod knowingly.  Then sit back and watch the fireworks!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric TF Bat</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/08/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-9262</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric TF Bat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a technique my wife taught me for dealing with our v. strong-willed young daughter; it's called Active Listening, and it sounds at first blush very much like what you're talking about.  The couple of people referring to your post as "sugar-coated passive-aggression" or claiming it's a way of NOT listening to someone are, thankfully, wrong.  It's actually a way of listening MORE -- listening to the person, not to the person's argument.  If your entire purpose were to argue then this would indeed be the Wrong Thing, but if you're trying instead to communicate then Active Listening is a serious win.  Our daughter is much more relaxed and secure in herself because we've been doing this for the last couple of years, and we've used the technique with grown-up but sometimes childlike friends with similar effect.

Really, if you want to head off silly ill-informed criticism from the commenters here who just Don't Get It, you can summarise thus: Listening Is More Important Than Talking, and Thinking Is More Intelligent Than Reacting.  All else is froth -- informative, illustrative, worthwhile, but ultimately froth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a technique my wife taught me for dealing with our v. strong-willed young daughter; it&#8217;s called Active Listening, and it sounds at first blush very much like what you&#8217;re talking about.  The couple of people referring to your post as &#8220;sugar-coated passive-aggression&#8221; or claiming it&#8217;s a way of NOT listening to someone are, thankfully, wrong.  It&#8217;s actually a way of listening MORE &#8212; listening to the person, not to the person&#8217;s argument.  If your entire purpose were to argue then this would indeed be the Wrong Thing, but if you&#8217;re trying instead to communicate then Active Listening is a serious win.  Our daughter is much more relaxed and secure in herself because we&#8217;ve been doing this for the last couple of years, and we&#8217;ve used the technique with grown-up but sometimes childlike friends with similar effect.</p>
<p>Really, if you want to head off silly ill-informed criticism from the commenters here who just Don&#8217;t Get It, you can summarise thus: Listening Is More Important Than Talking, and Thinking Is More Intelligent Than Reacting.  All else is froth &#8212; informative, illustrative, worthwhile, but ultimately froth.</p>
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		<title>By: jy</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/08/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-9261</link>
		<dc:creator>jy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol this rocks</description>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Birke</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/08/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-9257</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Birke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anybody wanting to improve his communication skills in "argument" situations I recommend "Nonviolent Communication"  by Marshal Rosenberg. 
Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1892005034/104-6615716-6820747</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anybody wanting to improve his communication skills in &#8220;argument&#8221; situations I recommend &#8220;Nonviolent Communication&#8221;  by Marshal Rosenberg.<br />
Amazon link: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1892005034/104-6615716-6820747" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1892005034/104-6615716-6820747</a></p>
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