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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m a Published Author!</title>
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		<title>By: Janda</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-6580</link>
		<dc:creator>Janda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello! I came across your website as I was looking for any legal action that could be taken for plagarism. I am currently in a situation where I have proof that an Intern had been stealing the work I had completed for my internship, copying most of it word for word and turning it into the university she attends, the same university that I had graduated from. Although your situation and mine are different, they are still the same.  I am very passionate about bringing cheaters to the punishment or at least the recognition as a cheater. I have contacted our university and sent copies to them of the plagarized work. I am unsure whether university policy for flagrant plagarism which is a recommendation by a professor for university suspension will be carried out. I just wanted to empathise with your situation and let you know that some people just can't think for themselves and do their own work, which is very sad. I am just hoping this cheater is not rewarded with a degree for my work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! I came across your website as I was looking for any legal action that could be taken for plagarism. I am currently in a situation where I have proof that an Intern had been stealing the work I had completed for my internship, copying most of it word for word and turning it into the university she attends, the same university that I had graduated from. Although your situation and mine are different, they are still the same.  I am very passionate about bringing cheaters to the punishment or at least the recognition as a cheater. I have contacted our university and sent copies to them of the plagarized work. I am unsure whether university policy for flagrant plagarism which is a recommendation by a professor for university suspension will be carried out. I just wanted to empathise with your situation and let you know that some people just can&#8217;t think for themselves and do their own work, which is very sad. I am just hoping this cheater is not rewarded with a degree for my work.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Muryn</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-6229</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Muryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At less if he copied the whole text, but gave you credit, or said it was your story even without asking, that would be more acceptable -- even if not legal -- IMHO.

All this is pretty contreversial.  Sure that is personal experience we are talking.  But if it was only an informational book, and some compiled a list of 10 articles on a subject, that fit perfectly, that would be as interesting as being able to use 10 code libraries perfectly to make something perfect.  Ok I'm babbling there ;-)^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H[...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At less if he copied the whole text, but gave you credit, or said it was your story even without asking, that would be more acceptable &#8212; even if not legal &#8212; IMHO.</p>
<p>All this is pretty contreversial.  Sure that is personal experience we are talking.  But if it was only an informational book, and some compiled a list of 10 articles on a subject, that fit perfectly, that would be as interesting as being able to use 10 code libraries perfectly to make something perfect.  Ok I&#8217;m babbling there ;-)^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H[...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Szabo Gabor</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-4293</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Szabo Gabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is always hard to face such a situtation.
All've been told, I only write this post (as a frequent reader of your post) to
show my solidarity. In my opinion, you should go after her/him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is always hard to face such a situtation.<br />
All&#8217;ve been told, I only write this post (as a frequent reader of your post) to<br />
show my solidarity. In my opinion, you should go after her/him.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pavlina</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-4240</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pavlina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 00:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris:  Doesn't matter to me -- he's going to find out soon enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris:  Doesn&#8217;t matter to me &#8212; he&#8217;s going to find out soon enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris B</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-4239</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 00:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I wonder is if the author copied your work in the past, do you think they read this very blog, and will see this thread?

That would get your heart pounding I bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I wonder is if the author copied your work in the past, do you think they read this very blog, and will see this thread?</p>
<p>That would get your heart pounding I bet.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pavlina</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-4141</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pavlina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Reinout:  Whenever I write an article, the ideas come from a variety of sources -- books, articles, CDs, seminars, personal experience, conversations, etc.  I have a whole shelf just of books that address procrastination.  After a while I stopped finding many original ideas and found that most experts in the field were saying the same things, just using different words.  Pick any random book on the subject, and you're bound to find overlaps with my article because they draw from similar source material.  For example:  &lt;i&gt;Following Through&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Living Without Procrastination&lt;/i&gt;.

Ideas themselves are not copyrightable; only their unique expression is.  I also don't think it's unethical to borrow ideas from various sources and re-organize them -- to me that's how we grow, by churning others' ideas through our own consciousness, combining them with personal experience, and presenting new variations.  For example, if you read something on this site which you consider to be a good idea, you're totally free to share it with others in your own words.  If you were to write an academic paper, it might be standard procedure to credit every source you can recall, but I don't think that's necessary (nor common) for less formal publication outlets.  Nevertheless, if I want to present or review ideas from a single book that I feel is unique (at least unique in my experience), then I'll name the source.  I've done this in previous blog entries like "Levels of Consciousness" and in articles like "Clean Up That Mess."  But I don't tend to do this if there are something like 10+ different sources, especially if I can't even recall them all.

Copying dozens of paragraphs of text verbatim, however, is copyright infringement because then you aren't just borrowing ideas but copying their unique expression.  Even if you credit the source in that case, it's still illegal to do so w/o permission.  Fair use provides certain exceptions, but passing off someone's exact text as your own isn't one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Reinout:  Whenever I write an article, the ideas come from a variety of sources &#8212; books, articles, CDs, seminars, personal experience, conversations, etc.  I have a whole shelf just of books that address procrastination.  After a while I stopped finding many original ideas and found that most experts in the field were saying the same things, just using different words.  Pick any random book on the subject, and you&#8217;re bound to find overlaps with my article because they draw from similar source material.  For example:  <i>Following Through</i>, <i>Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway</i>, <i>Living Without Procrastination</i>.</p>
<p>Ideas themselves are not copyrightable; only their unique expression is.  I also don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s unethical to borrow ideas from various sources and re-organize them &#8212; to me that&#8217;s how we grow, by churning others&#8217; ideas through our own consciousness, combining them with personal experience, and presenting new variations.  For example, if you read something on this site which you consider to be a good idea, you&#8217;re totally free to share it with others in your own words.  If you were to write an academic paper, it might be standard procedure to credit every source you can recall, but I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s necessary (nor common) for less formal publication outlets.  Nevertheless, if I want to present or review ideas from a single book that I feel is unique (at least unique in my experience), then I&#8217;ll name the source.  I&#8217;ve done this in previous blog entries like &#8220;Levels of Consciousness&#8221; and in articles like &#8220;Clean Up That Mess.&#8221;  But I don&#8217;t tend to do this if there are something like 10+ different sources, especially if I can&#8217;t even recall them all.</p>
<p>Copying dozens of paragraphs of text verbatim, however, is copyright infringement because then you aren&#8217;t just borrowing ideas but copying their unique expression.  Even if you credit the source in that case, it&#8217;s still illegal to do so w/o permission.  Fair use provides certain exceptions, but passing off someone&#8217;s exact text as your own isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Reinout van Rees</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-4140</link>
		<dc:creator>Reinout van Rees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you describe surely sounds like something malicious. It reminded me though of one of your previous articles/blog posts. When I read it I had just finished the book "the now habit". Your article http://www.stevepavlina.com/articles/overcoming-procrastination.htm is a great summary of some of the main points of the book. But you didn't credit it anywhere in the article and it sounded like 100% original content.

The "I have to/I choose to" and "I must finish/I must start" are from the chapter "how to talk to yourself". "Replace Deprivation With Guaranteed Fun" is from the chapter "Guilt-free play, quality work".

Now, I remember you saying you were reading a ridiculously large amount of books, so one way or another you probably just remembered those points and not the book they were from. But still, you present it as *your* content, though it is actually lifted from a book. This just shows how easy it is to make an error with this. 

Again, the thing you're experiencing now seems much more serious. Reminds me of a PhD collegue who literally saw a paper written by him in the proceedings of a conference with somebody else's name on it. He did manage to keep the guy from presenting it, but in the end it was al hushed up and swept under the carpet to protect some sensitive professors' reputations... I really hope you've got more luck with it.

Reinout</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you describe surely sounds like something malicious. It reminded me though of one of your previous articles/blog posts. When I read it I had just finished the book &#8220;the now habit&#8221;. Your article <a href="http://www.stevepavlina.com/articles/overcoming-procrastination.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.stevepavlina.com/articles/overcoming-procrastination.htm</a> is a great summary of some of the main points of the book. But you didn&#8217;t credit it anywhere in the article and it sounded like 100% original content.</p>
<p>The &#8220;I have to/I choose to&#8221; and &#8220;I must finish/I must start&#8221; are from the chapter &#8220;how to talk to yourself&#8221;. &#8220;Replace Deprivation With Guaranteed Fun&#8221; is from the chapter &#8220;Guilt-free play, quality work&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now, I remember you saying you were reading a ridiculously large amount of books, so one way or another you probably just remembered those points and not the book they were from. But still, you present it as *your* content, though it is actually lifted from a book. This just shows how easy it is to make an error with this. </p>
<p>Again, the thing you&#8217;re experiencing now seems much more serious. Reminds me of a PhD collegue who literally saw a paper written by him in the proceedings of a conference with somebody else&#8217;s name on it. He did manage to keep the guy from presenting it, but in the end it was al hushed up and swept under the carpet to protect some sensitive professors&#8217; reputations&#8230; I really hope you&#8217;ve got more luck with it.</p>
<p>Reinout</p>
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		<title>By: Unox</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-4102</link>
		<dc:creator>Unox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 20:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/15_2/15_2_1.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at <a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/15_2/15_2_1.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/15_2/15_2_1.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: SuzyQ</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-4054</link>
		<dc:creator>SuzyQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 09:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering the type of work that you decided to do, and your goal to become as big a person as you can be, I think the best challenge for you in this situation is to make that author your friend. 
I'm glad you didn't take it too hard on yourself in the first place, because that way you prooved you are a bit above the situation. Im really interested in how you will react on this one. 
Good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the type of work that you decided to do, and your goal to become as big a person as you can be, I think the best challenge for you in this situation is to make that author your friend.<br />
I&#8217;m glad you didn&#8217;t take it too hard on yourself in the first place, because that way you prooved you are a bit above the situation. Im really interested in how you will react on this one.<br />
Good luck</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-4018</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 05:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. I Just found your website the other day &#38; am slowly working through all of your articles. Great stuff. One additional route you might pursue is with the writers employer. I'm not sure if the thief is an academic or not but many book writers in this genre are. If that is indeed the case, most Universities have explicit rules barring plagarism &#38; this act could and should result in the person's firing/loss of tenure. 
As to what you should do, if someone stole your car and put his license plate on it would you let him keep it? This is no different and in many ways is worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. I Just found your website the other day &amp; am slowly working through all of your articles. Great stuff. One additional route you might pursue is with the writers employer. I&#8217;m not sure if the thief is an academic or not but many book writers in this genre are. If that is indeed the case, most Universities have explicit rules barring plagarism &amp; this act could and should result in the person&#8217;s firing/loss of tenure.<br />
As to what you should do, if someone stole your car and put his license plate on it would you let him keep it? This is no different and in many ways is worse.</p>
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		<title>By: George Garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-4017</link>
		<dc:creator>George Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 05:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you can prove that you wrote the words in question first, and then that your words are copied verbatim and are about personal memories, it is hard to imagine a successful defense. Since the plagiarist is trying to make money from your words, legal threats are in order, but I think that the most effective punishment and remedy will be publicity. Cases of plagiarism get a lot of attention in the mainstream press, and since this involves the Web, it's an interesting example of changing trends and thus would be an attractive story to editors in newspapers such as the NY Times, Wash. Post, USA Today. This kind of bad publicity is feared by publishers, not to mention being fatal for the reputation of the author. I think going public as soon as you feel ready (and after consulting a good attorney, of course) is the fastest way to get the books recalled and the author discredited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you can prove that you wrote the words in question first, and then that your words are copied verbatim and are about personal memories, it is hard to imagine a successful defense. Since the plagiarist is trying to make money from your words, legal threats are in order, but I think that the most effective punishment and remedy will be publicity. Cases of plagiarism get a lot of attention in the mainstream press, and since this involves the Web, it&#8217;s an interesting example of changing trends and thus would be an attractive story to editors in newspapers such as the NY Times, Wash. Post, USA Today. This kind of bad publicity is feared by publishers, not to mention being fatal for the reputation of the author. I think going public as soon as you feel ready (and after consulting a good attorney, of course) is the fastest way to get the books recalled and the author discredited.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Ehlke</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-3984</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Ehlke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 22:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to Harvey Wilson's comment, I would suggest a sticker that the publisher has to stick on one of the first pages of every copy of the book, saying something like:
"The text on pages x to y and z are heavily based on articles by Steve Pavlina. Visit his website at www... for more personal development articles."
Or he has to black the corresponding passages -- wouldn't be the first book with blackened passages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to Harvey Wilson&#8217;s comment, I would suggest a sticker that the publisher has to stick on one of the first pages of every copy of the book, saying something like:<br />
&#8220;The text on pages x to y and z are heavily based on articles by Steve Pavlina. Visit his website at <a href="http://www.." rel="nofollow">http://www..</a>. for more personal development articles.&#8221;<br />
Or he has to black the corresponding passages &#8212; wouldn&#8217;t be the first book with blackened passages.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-3931</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd fin out where he lives and call him up and abuse him, but that's just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d fin out where he lives and call him up and abuse him, but that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvey Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-3900</link>
		<dc:creator>Harvey Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to give a different perspective on this situation by relating it to a case where I was the "baddie".

I wrote a freeware units conversion program and one of the functions in it was to convert between various scales of steel hardness. These scales do not have simple mathematical relationships and the conversions are done using empirical tables drawn up from experimental work. Anyway, I searched the internet and included about 20 of these scales.

After a few months I received an email from a manufacturer of hardness testing equipment very politely informing me that I had infringed their trademark by using their name to label one of the hardness scales.  Largely because they started off so politely (but it was obvious they were carrying a big stick) we were able to work out a solution where (for no cost) they allowed me to continue using their name provided I acknowledged their trademark and explained the situation in the help function, plus I put a link into my program to their web page.

This was a nice win-win result. I have their data and blessing, and they get links from a program that gets about 120 downloads per day.

Perhaps you can get to a similar result?  If the author retains your articles in his book, but explains that they are written by you and includes a link to your site he will have a better book than he could have written himself and you will get publicity (and some money if you agree on royalties).  My advice is to start off politely, but use a lawyer to write the letter to make it clear you are carrying the big stick behind your back.

BTW, I hope you will classify me as a "clueless" and not a malicious plagiarizer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to give a different perspective on this situation by relating it to a case where I was the &#8220;baddie&#8221;.</p>
<p>I wrote a freeware units conversion program and one of the functions in it was to convert between various scales of steel hardness. These scales do not have simple mathematical relationships and the conversions are done using empirical tables drawn up from experimental work. Anyway, I searched the internet and included about 20 of these scales.</p>
<p>After a few months I received an email from a manufacturer of hardness testing equipment very politely informing me that I had infringed their trademark by using their name to label one of the hardness scales.  Largely because they started off so politely (but it was obvious they were carrying a big stick) we were able to work out a solution where (for no cost) they allowed me to continue using their name provided I acknowledged their trademark and explained the situation in the help function, plus I put a link into my program to their web page.</p>
<p>This was a nice win-win result. I have their data and blessing, and they get links from a program that gets about 120 downloads per day.</p>
<p>Perhaps you can get to a similar result?  If the author retains your articles in his book, but explains that they are written by you and includes a link to your site he will have a better book than he could have written himself and you will get publicity (and some money if you agree on royalties).  My advice is to start off politely, but use a lawyer to write the letter to make it clear you are carrying the big stick behind your back.</p>
<p>BTW, I hope you will classify me as a &#8220;clueless&#8221; and not a malicious plagiarizer!</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Labelle</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/im-a-published-author/#comment-3895</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Labelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being part of the photo.net community, we come across this type of thing quite often, with our photos being published in books, with out our consent or knowledge.
Hope this works out for you.
All the best...
JPL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being part of the photo.net community, we come across this type of thing quite often, with our photos being published in books, with out our consent or knowledge.<br />
Hope this works out for you.<br />
All the best&#8230;<br />
JPL</p>
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