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		<title>By: Samuel Tee</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/12/values-update/comment-page-1/#comment-3190</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Tee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if there is a value which is the most important for any success in life. I think the foremost value that is needed for success is self-discipline. What can be done without self-discipline? Even reading an article from Steve&#039;s blog to improve oneself is self-discipline. Calling up a customer to review a product is self-discipline. Learning peace is self-discipline. Becoming courageous requires self-discpline. Values can all be learnt if one has self-discipline</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if there is a value which is the most important for any success in life. I think the foremost value that is needed for success is self-discipline. What can be done without self-discipline? Even reading an article from Steve&#8217;s blog to improve oneself is self-discipline. Calling up a customer to review a product is self-discipline. Learning peace is self-discipline. Becoming courageous requires self-discpline. Values can all be learnt if one has self-discipline</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pavlina</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/12/values-update/comment-page-1/#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pavlina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just posted a new article called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stevepavlina.com/articles/living-your-values-1.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Living Your Values&lt;/a&gt; which will shed more light on this subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just posted a new article called <a href="http://www.stevepavlina.com/articles/living-your-values-1.htm" target="_blank">Living Your Values</a> which will shed more light on this subject.</p>
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		<title>By: neon</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/12/values-update/comment-page-1/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>neon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!
Only problem now is, where to take the energy to stick with my values :) Ok, so I should put energizing to the top of list.. maybe I am getting it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!<br />
Only problem now is, where to take the energy to stick with my values <img src='http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Ok, so I should put energizing to the top of list.. maybe I am getting it <img src='http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pavlina</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/12/values-update/comment-page-1/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pavlina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely!  If you weren&#039;t somehow lacking in applying your top values, you wouldn&#039;t need a values list to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely!  If you weren&#8217;t somehow lacking in applying your top values, you wouldn&#8217;t need a values list to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: neon</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/12/values-update/comment-page-1/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>neon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.. and hope it&#039;s the last thing, but I am reading the 300 point value list and thinking. I am attracted to words which are describing my ideal. And my ideal is just ideal because it&#039;s something I am not. I am very attracted to brave, cool-headed, full of awareness, persons, like kevin costner in the bodyguard :) But does it mean I am congruent with these values? Is it ok to make my top ten list from values that I know I lack in, just to improve them? Thereupon I&#039;ll be living for the reason of pursuing these values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.. and hope it&#8217;s the last thing, but I am reading the 300 point value list and thinking. I am attracted to words which are describing my ideal. And my ideal is just ideal because it&#8217;s something I am not. I am very attracted to brave, cool-headed, full of awareness, persons, like kevin costner in the bodyguard <img src='http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  But does it mean I am congruent with these values? Is it ok to make my top ten list from values that I know I lack in, just to improve them? Thereupon I&#8217;ll be living for the reason of pursuing these values.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pavlina</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/12/values-update/comment-page-1/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pavlina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you can differentiate those values.  Remember that values are just a guide for you to use in making decisions.  Even a single value like courage will mean different things to different people, so you have to consider what it will mean to you and how it will affect your behavior if you consciously remind yourself to live that value.  Values are like a compass, but you may need to recalibrate it many times to get it to feel right for you.

For example, when I wake up in the morning, my first thought when I get up is, what do I do now?  I look at my values, and I see clarity/focus in the top spot, so that might translate into the action of reviewing my schedule for the day to get clear on what I intend to do.  Ok, so now I&#039;m feeling pretty clear and focused -- I know what I have to do today, so that value is satisfied.  Then I look at value #2, health/vitality/fitness.  This value tells me to exercise right away and to remember to focus on getting in shape.  So I exercised, showered, and then ate a breakfast of fresh-squeezed veggie juice and steamed broccoli.  Then onto value #3, peace... feeling pretty peaceful after exercise and breakfast, so that value is already satisfied.  Next, connection/love... spend time connecting with my wife and talking about what&#039;s coming up for us.  Then intelligence/reason mixed with honor and courage led me to conduct and conclude a negotiation that transformed an increasing messy win-lose situation into a win-win one (and that in turn gave me additional peace and clarity).   So your values become your daily priorities.  It&#039;s not that you have to address them in order each day like this, but you have to put first things first and invest time and energy into satisfying them -- the higher on the list a value is, the more important it is to you.  If a high value isn&#039;t being satisfied, you need to do whatever it takes to get it up to par.

Of course there are interruptions that will throw you off course, but you just keep going back to your values and doing your best to satisfy them, starting from the top down.  This keeps you putting time into what&#039;s really important to you instead of having it gobbled up by urgent things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you can differentiate those values.  Remember that values are just a guide for you to use in making decisions.  Even a single value like courage will mean different things to different people, so you have to consider what it will mean to you and how it will affect your behavior if you consciously remind yourself to live that value.  Values are like a compass, but you may need to recalibrate it many times to get it to feel right for you.</p>
<p>For example, when I wake up in the morning, my first thought when I get up is, what do I do now?  I look at my values, and I see clarity/focus in the top spot, so that might translate into the action of reviewing my schedule for the day to get clear on what I intend to do.  Ok, so now I&#8217;m feeling pretty clear and focused &#8212; I know what I have to do today, so that value is satisfied.  Then I look at value #2, health/vitality/fitness.  This value tells me to exercise right away and to remember to focus on getting in shape.  So I exercised, showered, and then ate a breakfast of fresh-squeezed veggie juice and steamed broccoli.  Then onto value #3, peace&#8230; feeling pretty peaceful after exercise and breakfast, so that value is already satisfied.  Next, connection/love&#8230; spend time connecting with my wife and talking about what&#8217;s coming up for us.  Then intelligence/reason mixed with honor and courage led me to conduct and conclude a negotiation that transformed an increasing messy win-lose situation into a win-win one (and that in turn gave me additional peace and clarity).   So your values become your daily priorities.  It&#8217;s not that you have to address them in order each day like this, but you have to put first things first and invest time and energy into satisfying them &#8212; the higher on the list a value is, the more important it is to you.  If a high value isn&#8217;t being satisfied, you need to do whatever it takes to get it up to par.</p>
<p>Of course there are interruptions that will throw you off course, but you just keep going back to your values and doing your best to satisfy them, starting from the top down.  This keeps you putting time into what&#8217;s really important to you instead of having it gobbled up by urgent things.</p>
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		<title>By: neon</title>
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		<dc:creator>neon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great answer again. Maybe because I respect you so much Steve. Thank you very much.

One more question, if you don&#039;t mind. I realised when trying to set my values that there are some differences. There are values like growth and there are values like courage and discipline which are the base for the growth. If I won&#039;t have discipline and courage I will not do things which are helping me to growth. Should I differentiate these.

Is growth value? Is effitiency value? Aren&#039;t they functions and the Intelligence/Excellence/Courage are the values to lead to them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great answer again. Maybe because I respect you so much Steve. Thank you very much.</p>
<p>One more question, if you don&#8217;t mind. I realised when trying to set my values that there are some differences. There are values like growth and there are values like courage and discipline which are the base for the growth. If I won&#8217;t have discipline and courage I will not do things which are helping me to growth. Should I differentiate these.</p>
<p>Is growth value? Is effitiency value? Aren&#8217;t they functions and the Intelligence/Excellence/Courage are the values to lead to them?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pavlina</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/12/values-update/comment-page-1/#comment-378</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pavlina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no rule that says you must have only one career your entire life.  You can be a martial artist for a decade, then a singer, then a speaker, then a politician if you want.  When I was 22 I wanted to be a game developer -- done.  Now at age 33, I want to be a speaker and writer.  Perhaps at age 44 I will choose something different.

You don&#039;t learn what&#039;s right for you by thinking about it all day long.  You learn what&#039;s right you by diving in and trying different things.  If it&#039;s wrong for you, you&#039;ll find out by doing.  Then you can change and move onto something else.  Fail your way forward.

I remember seeing an interview with a group of self-made millionaire entrepreneurs, and on average each of them had been in something like 17-18 different businesses before finding the one that made them really wealthy.  They dove in, tried something, and if they found it was wrong for them, they cut out fast.

Read the bio of Leonardo da Vinci.  He had an amazing number of different interests.  There&#039;s no reason you can&#039;t do the same.  You&#039;re free to have a dozen or more different careers if you so choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no rule that says you must have only one career your entire life.  You can be a martial artist for a decade, then a singer, then a speaker, then a politician if you want.  When I was 22 I wanted to be a game developer &#8212; done.  Now at age 33, I want to be a speaker and writer.  Perhaps at age 44 I will choose something different.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t learn what&#8217;s right for you by thinking about it all day long.  You learn what&#8217;s right you by diving in and trying different things.  If it&#8217;s wrong for you, you&#8217;ll find out by doing.  Then you can change and move onto something else.  Fail your way forward.</p>
<p>I remember seeing an interview with a group of self-made millionaire entrepreneurs, and on average each of them had been in something like 17-18 different businesses before finding the one that made them really wealthy.  They dove in, tried something, and if they found it was wrong for them, they cut out fast.</p>
<p>Read the bio of Leonardo da Vinci.  He had an amazing number of different interests.  There&#8217;s no reason you can&#8217;t do the same.  You&#8217;re free to have a dozen or more different careers if you so choose.</p>
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		<title>By: neon</title>
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		<dc:creator>neon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot No Such Person. I am reading Steve&#039;s post and yours again and again.

Steve the problem is, I am always feeling different professions I am congruent with. I am not talking about values now. Values are nearly the same for me as I realised after reading your post. But what profession to be in life is the biggest question for now. I am very widely oriented person, I enjoy everything what I have mood for and my moods are changing in days, weeks, months and they change totaly. I am able to be satisfied with being the speaker one day and the other day I am very reserved and don&#039;t need to speak with anybody just to meditate, the other day I am ready to learn martial arts and enjoy movement, the other day I am lazy to train at all, but instead I feel I was born to be artist and enjoy painting that day. The problem is, I feel always congruent with nearly everything I doo, but only for the particular moment of life, till my mind change.

But I realised one thing. The values are still the same. Interesting, but still have no clue what way (profession) should I move  on to achieve these values and to be myself. I am totaly lost what my  predispositions are, maybe because I am so self-confident and precise in the jobs I do that I am succesfull in everything, the problem is I have no drive to stick with one thing and I am always changing, so the end effect is null.

PS. I am sorry for my english, it&#039;s so hard to explain what I mean, if it&#039;s not my native language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot No Such Person. I am reading Steve&#8217;s post and yours again and again.</p>
<p>Steve the problem is, I am always feeling different professions I am congruent with. I am not talking about values now. Values are nearly the same for me as I realised after reading your post. But what profession to be in life is the biggest question for now. I am very widely oriented person, I enjoy everything what I have mood for and my moods are changing in days, weeks, months and they change totaly. I am able to be satisfied with being the speaker one day and the other day I am very reserved and don&#8217;t need to speak with anybody just to meditate, the other day I am ready to learn martial arts and enjoy movement, the other day I am lazy to train at all, but instead I feel I was born to be artist and enjoy painting that day. The problem is, I feel always congruent with nearly everything I doo, but only for the particular moment of life, till my mind change.</p>
<p>But I realised one thing. The values are still the same. Interesting, but still have no clue what way (profession) should I move  on to achieve these values and to be myself. I am totaly lost what my  predispositions are, maybe because I am so self-confident and precise in the jobs I do that I am succesfull in everything, the problem is I have no drive to stick with one thing and I am always changing, so the end effect is null.</p>
<p>PS. I am sorry for my english, it&#8217;s so hard to explain what I mean, if it&#8217;s not my native language.</p>
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		<title>By: No Such Person</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Such Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neon, I experienced similar turmoil. My conflict was largely with Christianity instead of Taoism. I cannot guide you. I can only offer my own experience. 

My conflict was rooted in the fact that I was not discerning. I was blindly following orders. The Church demanded money and obedience and told me not to pursue money or success or women. Family demanded my obedience and my labor. My boss demanded that I work late and on weekends. The TV demanded that I buy a big house, and a sofa, and a double-cheeseburger. They gave me conflicting orders. How could I not be conflicted every day?

I shut out their voices and began observing the world. I realized that my church, my family, and my friends, were serving themselves. Most of them wanted something from me. Moreover, they lacked wisdom and had given me false information. I eventually saw that the world is not confusing. The people are confused. And they spread their confusion to me!

I do not understand Taoism, well. As I understand it: Working for success is good. Dwelling on success is bad. Struggling to grow is good. Domineering is bad. Creating wealth is good. Possessiveness is bad. Working 100% is good. Desiring 100% is bad. Perhaps there is no real conflict? Or perhaps some of the information you have been given is incorrect? You must learn what is true and false for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neon, I experienced similar turmoil. My conflict was largely with Christianity instead of Taoism. I cannot guide you. I can only offer my own experience. </p>
<p>My conflict was rooted in the fact that I was not discerning. I was blindly following orders. The Church demanded money and obedience and told me not to pursue money or success or women. Family demanded my obedience and my labor. My boss demanded that I work late and on weekends. The TV demanded that I buy a big house, and a sofa, and a double-cheeseburger. They gave me conflicting orders. How could I not be conflicted every day?</p>
<p>I shut out their voices and began observing the world. I realized that my church, my family, and my friends, were serving themselves. Most of them wanted something from me. Moreover, they lacked wisdom and had given me false information. I eventually saw that the world is not confusing. The people are confused. And they spread their confusion to me!</p>
<p>I do not understand Taoism, well. As I understand it: Working for success is good. Dwelling on success is bad. Struggling to grow is good. Domineering is bad. Creating wealth is good. Possessiveness is bad. Working 100% is good. Desiring 100% is bad. Perhaps there is no real conflict? Or perhaps some of the information you have been given is incorrect? You must learn what is true and false for yourself.</p>
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