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		<title>By: lifehack.org  &#187; Interview with Steve Pavlina</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/10/more-on-planning/#comment-3800</link>
		<dc:creator>lifehack.org  &#187; Interview with Steve Pavlina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Things Done system to manage my goals, projects, and tasks as explained in this article - More on planning. 	Lifehacks: What are your future plans on your home page? 	Steve: My [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;]  Things Done system to manage my goals, projects, and tasks as explained in this article - More on planning. 	Lifehacks: What are your future plans on your home page? 	Steve: My [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/10/more-on-planning/#comment-2996</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to suggest a ActionOutline-like tool : KeyNote. It's free, open source and very efficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to suggest a ActionOutline-like tool : KeyNote. It&#8217;s free, open source and very efficient.</p>
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		<title>By: Chira</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/10/more-on-planning/#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>Chira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use &lt;a href="http://freemind.sourceforge.net/"&gt;Freemind&lt;/a&gt; for organising collapsible lists. It's a flexible open-source mind-mapping program. Not only does it do tree structures, but allows greater flexibility, such as cross-linking between trees, and options for visual presentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use <a href="http://freemind.sourceforge.net/">Freemind</a> for organising collapsible lists. It&#8217;s a flexible open-source mind-mapping program. Not only does it do tree structures, but allows greater flexibility, such as cross-linking between trees, and options for visual presentation.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/10/more-on-planning/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,
Just found your blog - a really graeat one. thanks alot. My understanding of GTD is that it goes against daily to-to lists. Could you explain how you mix the two together?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
Just found your blog - a really graeat one. thanks alot. My understanding of GTD is that it goes against daily to-to lists. Could you explain how you mix the two together?</p>
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		<title>By: Neven Zovko</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/10/more-on-planning/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>Neven Zovko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 03:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, this is a great article. Thanks to you, with Action Outline now I have finally found a tool which helps me to sort my thoughts and organize my ideas in an efficient manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, this is a great article. Thanks to you, with Action Outline now I have finally found a tool which helps me to sort my thoughts and organize my ideas in an efficient manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Traunmueller</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/10/more-on-planning/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Traunmueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, 

thanks for your wonderful articles here and on Dexterity.

Your article on planning got me into setting up my own planning tool. I'm using SharePoint for this, and I wrote a little article about it, which you can find on &lt;a href="http://karlt.info"&gt;http://karlt.info&lt;/a&gt;.

NB: Besides requiring a Win2003 box and SQL Server, Windows SharePoint Services is free of charge, so this may be an option for people who already have this infrastructure available.

best regards,
Karl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, </p>
<p>thanks for your wonderful articles here and on Dexterity.</p>
<p>Your article on planning got me into setting up my own planning tool. I&#8217;m using SharePoint for this, and I wrote a little article about it, which you can find on <a href="http://karlt.info">http://karlt.info</a>.</p>
<p>NB: Besides requiring a Win2003 box and SQL Server, Windows SharePoint Services is free of charge, so this may be an option for people who already have this infrastructure available.</p>
<p>best regards,<br />
Karl</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/10/more-on-planning/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm implementing the system from David Allen's Getting Things Done, this week, as I read the book. I really like Steve's additional insight (did I read it here, or elsewhere?) about the relationship between Projects and Goals. The idea of using the different altitudes during review, alone, didn't strike me as sufficient. Although it's possible I haven't read far enough to understand them properly?

Also, from personal and anecdotal evidence, a possible anti-pattern: When people want to "get organized" it seems like a common first attempt is to sit down and try to create a detailed daily schedule. For people with "routine" lives, this may be based on the creation of a "standard" weekly schedule or similar. Am I alone in observing that this rarely works well? Life seems to offer too much chaos and the schedule is always shot to heck by 10am. 

And I'm not sure the nuanced scheduling advances the fundamental goal of getting X, Y, and Z done ASAP, with as little fuss as possible. In my life, it's not so important that X happen at 11:45. What's important is that X happen, soon, regardless of whether it happens today; regardless of whether it turned out to require 15 minutes or 15 hours; regardless of how much time my initial estimate said it "ought to" take. So maybe a warning is in order about going too far with the daily scheduling? Or do some people find that this works well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m implementing the system from David Allen&#8217;s Getting Things Done, this week, as I read the book. I really like Steve&#8217;s additional insight (did I read it here, or elsewhere?) about the relationship between Projects and Goals. The idea of using the different altitudes during review, alone, didn&#8217;t strike me as sufficient. Although it&#8217;s possible I haven&#8217;t read far enough to understand them properly?</p>
<p>Also, from personal and anecdotal evidence, a possible anti-pattern: When people want to &#8220;get organized&#8221; it seems like a common first attempt is to sit down and try to create a detailed daily schedule. For people with &#8220;routine&#8221; lives, this may be based on the creation of a &#8220;standard&#8221; weekly schedule or similar. Am I alone in observing that this rarely works well? Life seems to offer too much chaos and the schedule is always shot to heck by 10am. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not sure the nuanced scheduling advances the fundamental goal of getting X, Y, and Z done ASAP, with as little fuss as possible. In my life, it&#8217;s not so important that X happen at 11:45. What&#8217;s important is that X happen, soon, regardless of whether it happens today; regardless of whether it turned out to require 15 minutes or 15 hours; regardless of how much time my initial estimate said it &#8220;ought to&#8221; take. So maybe a warning is in order about going too far with the daily scheduling? Or do some people find that this works well?</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/10/more-on-planning/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, great post. I'll try to put your advices to work for me. Thank You for the great blog, I check it every day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, great post. I&#8217;ll try to put your advices to work for me. Thank You for the great blog, I check it every day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kai Backman</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/10/more-on-planning/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Kai Backman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the way you have broken down long term goals into final actions. I have used David Allens for a long time, and it is excellent for taking care of day to day business. However, I find his way of defering task picking to the last moment ineffective for advancing some long term projects. On the other hand, I have greatly profited from a Next Action list of tasks labelled "10 minutes" that contain small office tasks, calls or similar that can quickly be completed. Such a list keeps the office tidy both physically and mentally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the way you have broken down long term goals into final actions. I have used David Allens for a long time, and it is excellent for taking care of day to day business. However, I find his way of defering task picking to the last moment ineffective for advancing some long term projects. On the other hand, I have greatly profited from a Next Action list of tasks labelled &#8220;10 minutes&#8221; that contain small office tasks, calls or similar that can quickly be completed. Such a list keeps the office tidy both physically and mentally.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/10/more-on-planning/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2004 03:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Steve for yet another great article! 

&lt;a href="http://www.treepad.com/"&gt;Treepad&lt;/a&gt; is VERY similar to Action Outline. It's bit cheaper compared to Action Outline and you can download viewer for your Treepad files for free. Very handy if you want to distribute your Treepad files.

But recently I found software named &lt;a href="http://www.tgslabs.com/en/winorganizer/"&gt;WinOrganizer&lt;/a&gt;. I like it because it combines reminders, calendar etc. in single application with all the flexibility you could ask for. I feel it's worth a try.

Also, I will agree with your thoughts that you should post shorter multiple entries instead of one huge entry. I feel that this will give your blog readers time to think and apply what you have written. 

One more suggestion: Could you please enable 'Full Text' in your feeds. This will enable us to read complete blog post in our newsreader itself. For your quick reference, you can go to Options -&gt; Reading -&gt; Syndication Feeds -&gt; Select 'full text' radio button for 'For each article, show' option in your Wordpress admin site. 

Once again I must say that you have a great blog, and I am looking forward for more! 

JD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Steve for yet another great article! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.treepad.com/">Treepad</a> is VERY similar to Action Outline. It&#8217;s bit cheaper compared to Action Outline and you can download viewer for your Treepad files for free. Very handy if you want to distribute your Treepad files.</p>
<p>But recently I found software named <a href="http://www.tgslabs.com/en/winorganizer/">WinOrganizer</a>. I like it because it combines reminders, calendar etc. in single application with all the flexibility you could ask for. I feel it&#8217;s worth a try.</p>
<p>Also, I will agree with your thoughts that you should post shorter multiple entries instead of one huge entry. I feel that this will give your blog readers time to think and apply what you have written. </p>
<p>One more suggestion: Could you please enable &#8216;Full Text&#8217; in your feeds. This will enable us to read complete blog post in our newsreader itself. For your quick reference, you can go to Options -> Reading -> Syndication Feeds -> Select &#8216;full text&#8217; radio button for &#8216;For each article, show&#8217; option in your Wordpress admin site. </p>
<p>Once again I must say that you have a great blog, and I am looking forward for more! </p>
<p>JD</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pavlina</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/10/more-on-planning/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pavlina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2004 01:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd thought about posting copies of some of the docs mentioned in this entry, but I didn't want to post my own personal goals and to-do lists, and I didn't want to take the time to create a mock-up (given how long this blog entry had already become).  How you create these docs is largely a matter of personal preference (i.e. whatever works best for you).  But if you really want to see some examples of these, I think you'll find some in David Allen's &lt;i&gt;Getting Things Done&lt;/i&gt; book, which you should be able to find in any major bookstore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d thought about posting copies of some of the docs mentioned in this entry, but I didn&#8217;t want to post my own personal goals and to-do lists, and I didn&#8217;t want to take the time to create a mock-up (given how long this blog entry had already become).  How you create these docs is largely a matter of personal preference (i.e. whatever works best for you).  But if you really want to see some examples of these, I think you&#8217;ll find some in David Allen&#8217;s <i>Getting Things Done</i> book, which you should be able to find in any major bookstore.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/10/more-on-planning/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Magnificent, thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magnificent, thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Slava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for the great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for the great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/10/more-on-planning/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Could you possible post examples of all your various action plan files so that we could look at them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Could you possible post examples of all your various action plan files so that we could look at them?</p>
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